Kubiak and Wade Phillips are 7-0 and Rick Smith is.....

OK, I hear you. But what do you do next? Is there a college coach/coordinator/NFL retread out there that tickles your fancy? What about potential GMs out there? Also (and this is the big question) just who do you think will make these decisions? If you say McNair, then you'll be trusting him to make the right decision this time. To me, that's an awful lot to ask and hope that it turns out better this time around.

 

The question is always

Is the talent not being coached well
or
Is the coach working with a lack of talent

So at the end of the day . . .who do you trust . .. . RICK or BOB

at this point . .. i think alot of people are saying neither
but BOB gets more benefit of the doubt because of his short tenure

Rocket River

 

Who is solely blaming him?

 

Well our two other franchise owners got it right with great GM choices. McNair should be smart enough to figure it out, or at least make an intelligent decision.

As far as who's out there, in not really sure, though Kyle Shanahan has had his name thrown out there around here

 

How do you define "got it right with the GM choices?" If the Texans beat the Ravens in 2011 and went on to lose to the Patriots in the conference finals, does that make it a right choice? Because that is all Morey has done in 8 years. One WC finals appearance.

 

Well, at least you downgraded your "absolutely awesome" to merely "awesome". You must have realized you exaggerated.

I said it was a nice victory. If you think it was the greatest thing since sliced bread, go ahead.

Also, thanks for your suggestions. However, I'll keep rooting for Houston teams no matter how unimpressive they are.

IND's defense ranked 23rd in y/a (7.4) in 2012. Schaub did nothing special, especially considering he only a single TD.

Again...
Was it a nice win? Yes
Absolutely awesome? No
Was Schaub good? Okay
Was he awesome? Not even close

 

Well like I said, I think firing Kubiak was a mistake, so if Rick and BOB didn't meddle in what Kubiak wanted to do wed be fine

 

It was absolutely awesome.

At least you're not also exaggerating?....

You sound like a great fan.

In 2012, the year the game actually took place, they yielded 7.4 YPA; Schaub was a yard better per attempt. I look forward to your next series of "yeah. but"s... ALways fun.

It was an absolutely awesome win; an unexpectedly awesome win. The Patriots had just humiliated them, 42-14; they had to play on a short week and they thoroughly stomped the Colts in a pivotal, must-win that clinched the division.

 

Six-point game going into the 4th against a team missing 2 starting OL. Definitely a thorough stomping. Texans were +2 TOs and only win by 12, @home. We'll just have to agree to disagree. What NE did on MNF against us was the "thorough stomping" and an "absolutely awesome" win.

 

Old McNair Family photo.

 

Now that's an interesting take. If you're talking about baseball, I bailed when Crane sold the team down the river to the AL and haven't watched since so I'll have to take your word for it. If you're talking about basketball, then you have to take in consideration that while Morey did assemble a team that made it to the WCF but it took him 8 years to do so. Sure they can fire Smith as the reason for the current state of the team - that's the easy part. It's what comes next that's the problem. That's the part they can't seem to get right.

 

Context. Remember Morey also built a team that had Yao and Tmac. That failed for reasons that had nothing to do with bad GMing

And I think that Texans team with Andre, Foster and Schaub was a great team and legit contender. It's too bad that got derailed by injuries and probably bad GMing.

Agreed the next part is hard. I would hope McNair interviews more than two candidates whenever he fires this regime (doubt its this year, were in first place after all).

 

You keep saying this like it is factual.

 

The big difference between Morey and Smith is that Morey has said that he's going to build through FA and Trades. If I'm not mistaken, the Texans have said they want to build through the Draft. And yet, Morey's staff has been much more successful in drafting the right player and either allowing them to grow with the team (Jones/DMo) or trading them to get an equal or greater asset. Rick Smith's staff? Well, we all know how well he drafts.

While it did take Morey 8 years to get to the WCF, he has never had roster or coaching staff that had losing season, and they made it to the playoffs 6 times. He had a lot of roster turnover which produced results and helped them find their superstar to build around. It was never certain that the Rockets fans would see a contender, but you could always count on Morey wheeling and dealing to improve the roster.

In contrast, Rick Smith has had 3 losing seasons, and 2 playoff appearance. We've seen plenty of roster turnover, but it has resulted into absolutely nothing. What efforts have they made in the offseason or even in-season to improve the roster? To improve their depth? Seems like they always wait until the draft to once again, fall flat on their faces.

 

Wow Rick wanted to build through the draft?

Is that why he panics and overpays every broken down veteran?

 

You can't really compare the method of building teams from sport to sport. Different salary cap rules, different roster sizes, different number of specialized positions. It's apples and oranges. Trades are much more plentiful in basketball. Asking someone to build a football team the same way is foolish.

And just to play Devil's Advocate, you're basically saying Morey has had success with 1st round picks. Well, so has Smith.

 

LMBAO

Your trick-ass tried to dog me for a Clowney joke (a justified joke), yet you disowned your hometown team behind something as miniscule as a DH?!? LMMFAO

You are a borderline disgrace to the city of Houston. You need to be b-slapped, again.

 

Agreed -you cant build a football team the way a basketball team is built, but if you're rating the overall success of the two franchises, whose had more success?

Point I was really trying to make - regardless of how long it took the Rockets to make it to the WCF, fans always had a sense of HOPE that the franchise was doing SOMETHING to improve. I dont think Texans fans have that same sense of HOPE with this Front office.

Agreed. Morey and Smith have been successful in the 1st. However, Morey has also been successful in the 2nd round. Smith in rounds 2-7? Smith (or whoever is responsible for making the pick) has 5 additional chances per draft to get it right. Doesn't seem like that's gone very well.

 

I think you get rid of both Rocket River.

Uncle Bob needs to let Cal take over and we need to PRAY he is better than his old man at hiring football people.

 

so was it kubiak or smith who said no to peyton?