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Planned Parenthood Director caught on tape selling aborted baby parts

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Commodore, Jul 14, 2015.

  1. giddyup

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    Implicit? But you never mention it. You mention all the other options but often leave out adoption. See, I think that is a telling indicator.
     
  2. giddyup

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    You are so melodramatic.... "beyond oppressive"... "force"..."moralistic"

    Right to Life means that the baby's right to life is of more import that a mother's right to choose. Almost half the nation agrees with that. Stop pretending that it is some landslide.

    The videos that were released which started this thread were mean to bare the ugly reality of abortion rather than the sanitized version which talks of vacuums and shows lovely cheerleaders and soccer moms bearing up to it all with a Colgate smile.

    If a man were to rape one of my daughters, I'd consider killing him. Is it right for the government or anyone to oppress my "choice" to take revenge. In this instance we have a clearly violent participant. In the case of abortion, we have no such villain.

    Does it not sometimes seem that the world is turned inside out? We protect the guilty and we dismember the innocent babies in the womb.
     
  3. giddyup

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    You missed the "other" point. Is a shark or a croc or a piranha human? No. Then why do they feel entitled to eat me were I to swim among them?
     
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    Tell me about it, we should love in opposite world where restrictive abortion laws are actually correlated with lower abortion rates.
     
  5. g1184

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    Based on what criteria? What gives you the right to choose whether a baby cow dies, but not a fetus?

    Sharks, crocodiles and piranhas eat their own babies ... there's no point to be made in your question.

    You made a value judgment that said "I feel no remorse in taking the life of a hundred cows, but there's no justification in taking the life of a fetus," and your reasoning was because the fetus is human.

    So the question remains unanswered ... why would being human inherently provide an entitlement to life that isn't provided to God's other creatures?
     
  6. giddyup

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    Key word.... OTHER
     
  7. giddyup

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    Not everyone wants to cater to our baser natures. We don't do it in a lot of ways...
     
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    the baser nature of sadistically punishing people for no good reason and somehow mustering the gumption to feel good about it?

    or the baser nature of shame-based, data-devoid policies that have no place in modern society?

    There have been centuries of nonsense laws thanks to your line of thinking. I'm just happy to live in a world that is moving away from them. :)
     
  9. giddyup

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    No good reason?

    Why do you only attend to one side of the scale? Those who put the scale into motion and dare to threaten the sanctity of an innocent life need deal with their ****... not the rest of us.
     
  10. GladiatoRowdy

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    You're welcome to the belief. You're not welcome to force it on people who don't share it.
     
  11. g1184

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    Sounds like "I can kill things that don't look like me" is as deep as you go.

    If you can't even verbalize why a human's life is more valuable than a dog's, then how do you hope to put value on the life of a fetus?
     
  12. GladiatoRowdy

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    I think you're just reaching for bull$hit reasons to discount my position.

    From now on, I hereby decree that when I use the word "choice" in discussion about abortion, I am referring to the choice a woman has when she gets pregnant, between abortion, adoption, or keeping the baby.

    All better now?
     
  13. GladiatoRowdy

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    Not melodramatic, descriptive. It would be beyond oppressive to force a woman to bring a fetus she doesn't want to term and bear it. To do so based on your morals is, without doubt or question, moralistic.

    A belief you're welcome to hold, but not welcome to force on another.

    You might want to check your stats again, 19% believe abortion should be illegal.

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/1576/abortion.aspx

    I don't know where you get your information, I've never seen abortion described in this way.

    Yes, that's why we have a justice system.

    No, we have a woman making a difficult choice, one you're not welcome to butt into.

    I don't protect the "guilty." I protect the right we should all have to decide what happens inside our own bodies.
     
  14. GladiatoRowdy

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    They are dealing with their ****. Why do you feel that your beliefs should trump theirs?

    You don't have to deal with their **** at all. You could work towards attending to the side of the problem which would actually reduce abortion rates, instead you tilt at the abortion windmill.
     
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    I don't need to attend to any side of the scale if you're proposing solutions that don't work.
     
  16. giddyup

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    Sorry but I'm not being taken in by this distraction. We all, in many ways, have values thrust on us. Don't try and make this sound like a unique situation. It don't fly....
     
  17. giddyup

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    Only if you are a human. Don't you get it? A shark will eat you because he values his life more than yours. A school of piranha will nibble you to death because they don't give a rat's ass that you are human.

    Sorry but there is no treatise to assert. It is a simple matter that even applies to flesh eating bacteria... how dare they!!
     
  18. giddyup

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    Why should we accept, and then structure, a "system" which allows people to be reckless, heartless and irresponsible at another's expense?

    In what way is this system "working?" We've killed 50,000,000 innocent children...
     
  19. CometsWin

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    Giddy do you have an answer yet for how you would care for all the unwanted children that would be in the system today if not for abortion? Five hundred thousand unwanted babies per year adds up pretty fast my friend.
     
  20. giddyup

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    Yes, I have. Parents. It takes two to make another one.

    Why let those ****ers (literally) off the hook? Then it becomes your and my and our problem. It is their responsibility. They are never going to step up if we manufacture and legitimize OUTS for them.
     

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