Consider it getting advice from Greg Popovich. Because I'm sure he feels the same way about our offense.
Whether you agree with Captain Jackass or not, just think about it for a minute... you are using a guy who calls himself Captain Jackass as a voice of reason. That's how far we've fallen as a fanbase it seems. I find it funny more than anything that everyone is losing their damn minds around here THIS much. That being said... It doesn't take a Rocket scientist to show that the Rockets offense is truly rudimentary and when its off (or Harden is off), its maybe the ugliest offense in the entire NBA because there is no movement involved, and the spacing is pretty much where the player "feel" they need to go in order to create spacing for the drivers. I FU$%ING GET IT. Not just you, but everyone here collectively needs to stop getting all pissy at people who you guys think are apologists, or somehow think McHale is a secretly great coach because he's not. WE GET IT. If you guys care about what I think (and i know for a fact you guys dont) I can give you my 2 cents but that doesn't really matter. The fact is, nobody is getting fired November 2nd in the NBA unless you are the 2012 Lakers, and we see how that coaching bonanza worked out for them. McHale, Finch, and by extension Morey's offensive system has proven it will win you games at least in the regular season when the guys start clicking (as evidence last night in beating one of the NBA's best teams). Yes... we can do better with a coaching upgrade, and while I think that typically I haven't seen an upgrade that was worth making the risky switch to, I do think that Tom Thibs is worth the gamble this Summer if he's still available, and I hope that the team isn't still struggling all the way into the new year to force a mid season coaching change... because that means we have serious problems in Houston... like organizational catastrophe problems. Even the McHale hate squad doesn't want that even if you think you do just to get McHale out.
for are the people that are frustrated with the offense now and are calling for Thibs, you are going to hate the offense even more then. If you want to go from a fast pace offense to primarily half court then Thibs is more your man.
But if you guys obsess all day every day about when and how McHale is going to get fired, you are going to miss out on a great season of basketball by the Rockets who have a real shot this year. Its not going to happen till June most likely if at all unless it gets SOO bad that by the new year the Rockets are out of the playoffs and are forced to make a change. NOBODY here that is a true Rockets fan really wants that. Just saying, if you guys just keep obsessing about this you are going to miss out on enjoying a good season of basketball. Yes we are off to a poor start with a terrible training camp & preseason. Yes, the Rockets offense will look horrid at times. Yes, you will miss out on great X's and O's plays called out of timeouts that smart coaches like Brad Stevens can come out with. But overall we have a good team still that can compete. So enjoy it now, and worry about changing coaches when its time to worry about that.
I agree with this. Even though I still think Thibs would be great IF the Rockets had to make a change. I think the Rockets with the P&R players they have would function fine in the half court with Thibs' offense. Also Thibs obviously would run Harden and co. into the ground with minutes. Its the primary reason he was fired in Chicago. There is no such thing as a perfect coach. Even Popovich has his controversial moments like in the finals a couple years back when he went small and kept Duncan out of the game, and that was a catalyst for that Miami run, and the Spurs collapse to close out the series. But again.... we all should hope that the team just starts playing better to where making a coaching change isn't an issue. If we have to make a coaching change, that means the team has really really sucked the first half of the season. Nobody wants that. Anyways, I'm done with the McHale fire talk for the day. Carry on guys.
Yeah I think Thibs is a good coach no doubt about that. His offense may be much slower etc because it ties into his defensive principles but it does have a high win probability. He'll have a job by next season. He's too good of a coach to not be employed by some NBA team in this league
Why not Thibs? We don't have an offense anyway atleast we'll have a coach with good defensive strategy, one out of two ain't bad.
yeah the rockets dont have an "offense" when they've been one of the highest scoring teams the past couple of years
good response. you obviously don't understand the principles of the rockets system so of course you would think they have no offense
LOL, you got me, I don't understand why our offense is so bad. James Harden is the reason for our success. We run simple basic plays and most of the time really we freelance. We run ISO for him and he's one of the best at it, that's great for the regular season, but not for a championship run in the playoffs. It's pretty much just on him. In my opinion that's no offense. What are you doing in this thread anyway? Aren't you tired of flame wars?? Why so angry? How bout you go start an I love Mchale thread and stay out of this one.
Every time I see YOLO now I think of Josh Smith. Famous throughout his career for hoisting up YOLO Threes.
This is exactly the type of attitude I'm referring to up above. You guys on the McHale Kill Squad are so obsessed with him as the enemy that you can see nothing else. If you aren't just as obsessed with sh#$ing on him, and provide any sort of counter argument, you are a McHale lover, and an idiot. You guys are losing your god damn minds. Stop it children.
im in the thread to point out the pointless agenda you try to make. If you're going to argue to fire mchale at least have some substance to back it up. You have yet to point out anything significant besides whining about this "no offense"
Your whole reply is basically made up BS. First this thread is full of substantive responses but you guys just ignore it. Much like you just side stepped my question about why there is not an "I love Mchale thread". Nice try it didn't work. Second at some point when the same people just "don't get it" all you can do is shake your head and ask them to leave and perhaps make their on thread. There is a full video of why Mchale system is bad but again you ignored that and just attacked the person's name. You are not a victim, I didn't call him anything. I didn't say he was a Mchale lover or an idiot. I also don't hate Mchale as a person, he is a good person and a funny guy, not a good coach though. Once you start putting words in someone else's mouth you are grasping at straws and you know you've lost. You don't have to argue with any of us or get upset that we don't like Mchale's coaching you could just simply leave, just start a thread stating why you love his coaching and let us be, but you don't want to. There is no sense in arguing with you guys because anything substantive is just ignored anyway.
My reply is BS? Its BS to say that its unfair to either be a McHale hating lunatic or a McHale loving lunatic? There is plenty of rational discussion to be had in the middle, but nobody seems to want to have it. Just like with the Jones arguments and the Lin arguments before, its the same crap as always on this site. One side picks the extreme side, and anyone who isn't on their side is the enemy. Its childish. "you ignored a video showing how bad McHale is".... I don't need to acknowledge or ignore the evidence that is shown about how bad the Rockets offense is because I know how god-awful horrible the Rockets offense looks at times when it breaks down, and everyone on the court is just standing there stagnant with poor spacing. I've seen it myself for 4 seasons or however long McHale has been here. But there is a full blown long detailed conversation about the Rockets conversation here that goes beyond a highlight real of Rockets broken plays. Anyone can make a YouTube video of cherry picked broken Rockets plays... especially from the first 3 Rockets blowouts where their offense was non-existent. However there is always a counter that needs to be considered to fully understand both sides of the coin to come up with practical solutions to real problems. (of course you probably won't read that last paragraph though because you'll just skim through the jucy parts where you feel attacked, and it LOOKS like Im a McHale lover) Maybe you aren't as bad as some folks like FTW Rockets FTW, but you just stooped down to do it yourself.... "Go start a McHale Love Thread".... dude stop. Nobody is saying that he's the greatest coach ever. You guys just want your pitty party thread to come in and b**** and have nobody bring your ridiculous rationale back down to earth. Well here's your b**** thread back. You want to have a real conversation about the Rockets offense/defense or whatever without choosing sides,a nd enemies, I'm game.... If not... Have a good one, and enjoy having your pitty part thread back.
exactly my point. no substance to backup anything you've said. try bringing up some valid points first. until then don't get upset just because you get called out with all the whining you've been doing
You are correct, which is why there is really no reason to complain. However, I firmly believe that McHale will never win a chip as a coach, he is just not good enough at it, and we risk this window of opportunity closing because of his incompetence. DD
