You're getting off topic. Falcons Talon and I, as teachers, have never called the cops due to a cell phone. You, in your "mostly minority" experience, never saw a teacher call the cops for a cell phone, right? We all three agree that calling the cops for a cell phone is extremely unusual, right?
Ah yes, not allowing classroom disruption is the EXACT same as Nazi Germany, slavery, or apartheid South Africa..... If you're trying to have people take your stance seriously, don't do that.
No, you got off topic by spouting your ignorant assumptions. I just called you on it. Cell phones weren't really a thing when I was in high school, not all that many people had them and even fewer students had them. As to the school policy, they were outright banned along with pretty much every electronic device other than a calculator. If you had a cell phone (or pager) at school and someone saw it, the phone would be immediately confiscated and your parents would have to pay to get it back from the school cop. If you put up a fight about it, sure, they'd call one of the principals or the school cop to take it from you, but in my experience, it never happened. There were times that a principal or the school cop had to come to a class to deal with an unruly student though. At my school, you'd be better off dealing with the cop than you would be dealing with the assistant principal they'd call though.
OK, well you're coming from a different place. As a student or teacher, I have never had a policeman or security guard enter the classroom. I think it is abnormal, and obviously extremely bad from the education standpoint. That entire class with that teacher is now totally a negative experience. A year of schooling has gone negative for those students. At Prairie View I had a running back from the football team in a class, who didn't show up for like the first five weeks of class. Then he came in one day and sat on top of his desk, while everyone else was sitting in their desks. I had a verbal exchange and kind of altercation with the guy in the class, but what was he going to do, keep sitting on the desk through the whole class? Anyway, today this guy would end up being taken down by a security officer, in some controlled violent submission move. Just ten years ago, the controlled violence didn't need to happen. Why is society getting more and more like this? Because of "terrorism"? Everyone's terrified, that's for sure. But the police and the army can't protect you from what you're afraid of.
I went to school WAY before 9-11 so it's nothing to do with terrorism. Schools that want to maintain standards don't put up with students that are distractions. As to this instance, sure the girl caused a situation that was a distraction for a day, but you expel her and it's no longer a problem after maybe a week tops. When dealing with kids, you can't let them run the show. In a college setting it can be very different, but high school isn't college. When I was in college, I think I only saw one person ever act up and get tossed out of a class and it was a one day thing and I never saw that student again. High school is just a different animal, the kids don't pay for it and most of them don't respect it. That's what it really comes down to, respect. No one was "afraid" of the stupid girl that was being a distraction and breaking class rules, they just didn't choose to put up with her nonsense. IMO that's how it should be.
Now hold on. I've never had to call the cops because I have a rapport with my kids, but I have sent kids out, and if I had to call security, I would. That is their job, and I will let them do their job so I can do mine. Most of the time, the problem is not the problem....the problem is the attitude about the problem.
Cops are held to a higher standard than regular citizens. When a citizen talks back or doesn't follow a cop's orders, the cop has to work a little bit harder to restrain the person, minor inconvenience. On the other-hand, when a cop wants to become a vigilante and start abusing his power, people get hurt and killed.
I get holding cops to a "higher standard", but you have to hold the garbage ass civilians to some kind of standard, right? I mean, I'm not for police brutality or abuse of power at all.....but there are times when people simply cross the line to egregiously or too often. I see this case as excessive force because he didn't have to throw her completely across the room, that was anger not necessity. That said, use of force was absolutely justified....just not as much as was used.
That said, maybe I feel that way because of my time in the Army. I don't mind cops playing games when people act up, I think it should be expected even. Of course, maybe that's becuase I can play f*** f*** games like a champ no matter what side of it I'm on. I see it as nothing but a consequence of acting up in front of those who have authority over you....in the minds of some, they think no one has or should have authority over them and those are usually the people that make the funniest videos.
Can you PLEASE leave your bisexual love life out of this conversation. Totally irrelevant (and probably grossly, and I do mean grossly, ew, exaggerated).
That was a factual statement. The guy is an anarchist thus his opinion on any topic is immediately invalid. Anarchists are political children, they don't get to sit or talk with those at the big kid's table.
