I have never been a TJones fan or hater. I've always seen his potential and flaws, and hoped he would find a measure of consistency. I compared him to a young Paul Millsap...an undersized but very athletic PF that could develop a jumper with time. He has regressed, to the point where his strengths don't even look like strengths anymore. The ballhandling? Does anyone here really trust him to make the right decision with the ball in his hands? Finishing around the rim? Denver didn't have big time shot blockers out there, but TJones was getting stuffed left and right. There's been enough time to see who TJones is now. If you can't look past the stats to how his play is impacting this team, then I won't be able to convince you otherwise. His proper role on this team is as a part time role player, similar to Terry and Thornton.
I replied to it Lmao really?? Jones shooting 46% contributed to the teams 34%? It wasn't the rest of the team shooting like total ****? Are you really sure of that? His spacing? He's played center half the game, in that case Capela and Harrell also killed our spacing, and Dwight when he plays, he kills our spacing as well of course. I know how the %'s work. But our guards shot so awful, that Jones at 46% still had a better night, and 46% is not even a bad percentage for a PF. Only a handful of PF's who attempt over 12 shots a game average 60% or 70%, that's a insane league high percentage. Its usually low 50's. None of our guards shot over 33%. Harrell only put up 4 shots, the only other player who arguably had a better performace then Jones is Capela. Yet people are over circle jerking about how bad a night Jones had and how he needs to be traded. You can't call out his spacing because what other big on the floor provided spacing? None. You can't call out defense because everybody played **** defense, you can't call him out on offense because he was one our top offensive performers tonight. Literally not one reason to single him out over any of the other **** performancea tonight. Just utter BS.
wow Jones must be very important to destroy on his own all the team's defence and offence. What a bunch of utter bull****. I wonder what other scapegoat will the trolls find to blame when Jones is traded. Brewer and Lawson? Dekker? Make your bets.
Yeah I really side more with this line of thinking. Jones has his flaws for sure, but for everyone piling on his performance last night is pretty ridiculous. Was he bad defensively? Yep. But... The whole team minus Harrell was pretty much garbage last night. No one played D and no one could throw it in the ocean either. I'd start complaining about your superstar first, because he showed very little in game one. The Rockets need better play across the board, end of story regarding last nights game.
It generally happens: when James Harden doesn't show up to play, the whole team doesn't show up either. When he isn't invested in the game, neither are players 2 - 14 (or however many we have on the roster). Part of that goes to McHale. The game plan is to jack 3's and ride Harden to the Promised Land, no matter what. Harden needs to pull his head out of Khloe Kardashian's ass (actually, he needs to get over the fact that he was already forced to do so) and wake up. Although this is also his m.o. He overlooks weak opponents when he sees teams like Golden State looming; he ignores the immediate horizon while looking to the near horizon.
Spacingreallyisimportant,thingsjustdon'tworkrightwhenthere'snospacing.IwashopingthatJoneswoulddevelopsomekindof3pointshot,butitsimplyneverhappened.
Shots may sometimes not fall and sometimes he may not get the calls but I was really dissapointed in his defence. Reverted back to two years ago. Ball watching most of the game and losing his man who was cutting on the basket unguarded a lot of times.
Jones had some really bad looking shots in the 1st half. He adjusted and had some success in the 2nd half but it doesn't really matter because by then it was pretty much over. Relative to his normal output, Jones didn't do that bad. Harden, Ariza and Brewer all come to mind as playing worse than Jones relative to their respective normal outputs. But yea a couple of those shots at the rim were cringe worthy and certainly contributed to the Nuggets taking control early.
Well part of it is that the team was sort of setting him up for failure by giving him the ball in the post. He's not a post player at all. The other part was that he wasn't finishing well even when he was sticking to things he usually does well. The good news is that DMo shouldn't be out TOO long.
I know Montrezl doesn't create any spacing,but his energy level was nice, and he moves without the ball way better than tjones, so his man cant just leave him. Not saying he's the answer, but I cant stand the way tjones plays. Montejunas will help alot, but there are so many negatives for tjones which the rockets team cant afford, cant rebound, turnovers, low defensive awareness. Tjones takes the ball out of Harden and Lawson's hands alot which I dont like either.
No one is saying anyone played goood last night we were all sleepwalking while denver were moving it around the horn until they finally got a layup. But last night was an example of how tjones looks without dwight next to him, and it was against a very WEAK front if not the weakest in the NBA. He looked lost, soft, clueless, slow, hesitant.....which he did last year, and the year before , yet stubborn and ppl without much basketball iq have said hes better then dmo and is a player that we CANT replace LOL DMO get well soon plz...malakas while u provide great info your player evaluation is ****, iam pretty sure you watch box scores more than the actual games, even before yesterdays game you say 2 things...."iam not saying jones is an all star but hes above average and is hard to replace" " Jones can def get us a late first rounder" Both statemants prove you have 0 skill in evaluating a players' value to his team
well well..We will see what Jones can bring back when he's actually traded- (not s+t coz that's very different). I am following trades and transactions years and years let's see who is right. The one who is being objective and know the other teams' need and the current market value and the effect of the cap rise or someone who just hates Jones? And we will also see how easily is to replace Jones with someone who is paid as much as him and what player can actually do. As for should take the blame for this loss is the one who is the star and leader of the team. Harden. Not a role player like Jones. I see countless threads about Jones like he's the main culprit but not one thread about how Harden's defence seems to have reverted back to putrid from average.
After reviewing the footage, I think he can improve with the presence of Dwight on the floor. The kid had 15 and 6 with 2 blocks and a stl , so he doesn't suck, he just needs to work on his defensive footwork and a midrange jumper because no one takes his three point shot seriously.
Wed be lucky to get Marcelo Huertas for tjones garbage a$$ he has no trade value cause other gms have seen him play, and know he has the IQ of a ground squirrel and doesn't move the ball or do anything without the ball.
The difference between TJones and other players on the team playing like garbage is that the other players game last nightis the exception not the norm. TJones playing terrible is starting to become the norm.
