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#AssaultAtSpringValley

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Carl Herrera, Oct 26, 2015.

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  1. Mr.Scarface

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    The cop would be in jail, charged with assaulting precious Emily........
     
  2. edwardc

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    Good thing he won't be able to do this to another kid he has been FIRED.
     
  3. Bobbythegreat

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    No, it wouldn't have been a thread at all because no one would care outside of those related to the people involved.

    I think it's a good thing the guy got fired because he was too rough to be dealing with kids, but those acting like this is some kind of a big deal are just ridiculous.

    He should have just tased her.
     
  4. dragician

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    But isn't it 'illegal' to text in school? :p
     
  5. GolfWang

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    Exhibit A: on why I don't trust police officers
     
  6. Bobbythegreat

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    In a roundabout way, maybe. Causing disruption in schools is illegal in a lot of places, but I couldn't tell you if that's the case where this incident happened. It's something you can be given a ticket for and have to go to court over if it happens to be one of those places. Of course, disobeying lawful orders given by police officers is also illegal. This little girl has a bright future ahead of her becoming the next Sandra Bland if she doesn't get a lot smarter about the way she acts around cops.

    In the end though, she wasn't hurt and the cop was fired for being over the top rough with a kid. End of the story for now.
     
  7. Rocket River

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    When an Adult beats down a child . . . . I'm afraid so

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  8. Nook

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    No, there are better examples honestly.

    The one that stands out is from the same state.... the man that was behind on child support and ran from an officer, in the park and was shot in the back and left to bleed out comes to mind.... that is one of the worst acts I have seen by an authority figure in a stable society.
     
  9. Nook

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    She isn't little... she is 18. I don't like how she handled the situation or the cop. The difference is that the cop is an authority figure.
     
  10. DonnyMost

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    And worse yet, dude tried to plant a weapon on him.
     
  11. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    Good to hear this dickless coward got fired, but frankly that's not enough punishment for this violence. He needs to undergo rehab of some sort and watched 24/7. He's only going to get worse now that he's been outed as a coward.
     
  12. Mathloom

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    Why are people talking about gender/size as if it would be ok to do that to a grown man who simply won't give up their cell phone?

    The other thing is, it's precisely because of her physical vulnerability that he did this. People like that don't deal with a mixed martial artist that way. They prey off physically weaker people, or in bigger case lesser armed people.
     
  13. Mr. Clutch

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    We don't know what gender these people are
     
  14. Nook

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    In the USA there is still societal differences in how men and women are viewed. It bothers me more that it happened in a school setting and to a female.


    How do you possibly know that is why he did it?
     
  15. StupidMoniker

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    The girl was arrested and charges are pending against her. Clearly someone thinks her behavior was criminal.

    The cop most likely beats any suit against him and wins a wrongful termination suit unless the police union is especially weak in that town.

    Going forward, they should just cancel the class and charge the parents of the disruptive student the cost of that one period. With a 180 day school year, assuming 6 periods per day and 30 students per class, using the FY2013 number for South Carolina of $9,514 per student per year, I calculate each class period to cost about $264. Most parents are not going to be happy to be out that kind of money even once, let alone multiple times. Hit them where it hurts the most, in the wallet. Once the bills start piling up, maybe some discipline will be instilled at home and the cops won't need to be involved.
    Yeah. Shut up cis scum. :p
     
  16. Bobbythegreat

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    It wasn't about giving up a cell phone, it was about getting up and getting out of the class so they'd stop being a distraction. Also, it's pretty foolish to think that he wouldn't have handled the situation pretty much the same if it was a big guy who was being a dick.
     
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    That's very true, they could both be female for all we know. Has anyone asked the officer if he was feeling like a female at the time? It'll change everything.
     
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    No it really didn't contribute to the escalation of force. What was the threat she was presenting by flailing around? None. You make it sound like she was throwing haymakers from how you wrote it lol. He grabbed her and she reacted. He can just as easily step back and not engage further. If you are forcefully trying to move someone then you have to expect them to hold their ground if they are being non-compliant. The girl presented zero threat but clearly had no respect for any authority figures. Why would the officer expect her to simply get up and leave after he touched her? Also, why did she need to be violently removed from her desk? She was simply sitting there in the video. There was no reason that I saw to turn a non-violent (but disruptive) situation into a violent situation. The officer could have simply sat there and talked with the girl.

    Honestly, I don't even really know what your point is. Are you just trying to say the student brought this on herself? I mean yeah if you want to get down to the base of it all she did. If she was a person that was respectful of authority then she wouldn't have had the officer called to remove her in the first place. She clearly has issues with authority so her non-compliance should have been expected and a less confrontational route could have been taken. Pride and ego got in the way on both ends, however the officer should not be allowing his ego to dominate his actions.
     
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    "As a practical matter, a federal grand jury will almost always return an indictment presented to it by a prosecutor. This is the basis for Judge Sol Wachtler's famous saying that a prosecutor can get a grand jury to 'indict a ham sandwich.'" — Solomon L. Wisenberg,

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  20. FishBulb913

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    Unless you shoot someone in Ferguson.
     

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