Doing his job would have been to calm this issue not make it worse there has to have been another way he could have handled this throwing this girl around like a rag doll makes him look really bad.
In non criminal instances, it's not up to the cop to decide whether a student should be removed from class. I'm not totally sure who makes the call on the methodology, but the police likely need the consent/directive of the staff to evacuate the classroom. So, I can't put the escalation on the cop. It was escalated by the time he showed up. That's on the staff and student. Like I said, if the cop acted without permission or consult of the staff, then he's to blame, but I cant assume that. At worst, he's at fault for not seeking to clear the classroom first. (but that could very likely be entirely on the staff)
Or if he was smart, he could have told the teacher and principals that he can't do anything unless a crime is being committed. He should've known his own boundaries. Still shares the blame with the school staff.
Do I have to be a cop or do they offer a one day "I'm frightened of teenagers" CHL like course for us Texans to protect ourselves and law enforcement from this teenage girl threat? These girls have bow and arrows I've seen the movies you can't trick me Obama.
He could have, but are we certain that is true? Of course there's probably some statute that makes completely refusing to obey school admins a misdemeanor.
Public disturbance, criminal trespass, contributing to delinquency of a minor, or another law that I'm sure covers this. Take your pick. She disrupted the classroom, was told to leave and expelled, but stayed anchored in her desk. Handling this peacefully is in everyone's best interest. But when the student doesn't want to do things peacefully, what are you supposed to do?
Just looking it up, hard to tell on some of the specifics of law-breaking in this case. Think it might vary state by state on the exact specifics too. In any case I think that a cop more adept at dealing with teenagers should have been in place over a guy who already had allegations of brutality.
Yeah it's hard to tell. I just know back in high school this was the general rule of thumb for our cop. If someone wouldn't leave class he wouldn't forcibly remove them. But, when some dude tried to swallow some cocaine he was hiding and resisted, he flipped him on the ground and forced him to puke it out.
From what witnesses are saying it doesn't sound like he escalated the situation verbally and was very calm, methodical, and respectful. How long he gave her to comply we don't really know, but I doubt that having one more "please move" in there would have made a difference.
This is yet another case where while the suspect, student in this case, isn't right the LEO isn't either. Certainly this all could be avoided if the student had just cooperated and I see some of the usual suspects defending the LEO on that basis. As always that is a flawed argument as it completely ignores proportionality. Not getting out of a desk isn't a threat that should require the level of violence that the LEO brings.
I'd let soneone trained to deal with children handle her rather than calling a cop in to throw her down and handcuff her. Criminalizing children in classrooms because they won't follow the teacher's instructions is preposterous.
Teachers and school administrators are your professionals trained to deal with children. That didn't work. What next?
In your opinion then do you think that the LEO would be justified in using any amount of force to remove the student?
We need to teach our youth to respect police officers. That should be a huge takeaway from this year and all the "incidents".
I think the LEO used the least amount of force required to remove the student. He did not strike her, use a taser or draw any other weapon on the student to do it.
That wasn't exactly the question. The question was if you feel that the LEO is justified to physically use force are they justified to use any amount of force?
