Yep -- and you aren't joking about that being an actual quote from cops: Spoiler and, for the curious, the shirt in that image was created by the Denver police union themselves.
There are thousands of worthy examples of police misconduct/brutality. This is not the one you want to hang your vive la resistance banner from.
I'm not hanging it on any one of them -- I am hanging it on the aggregate of them. And I certainly think that this case, where a man treated a teenage girl not being violent in any way shape or form the way we see in that video is indeed an example of the stupidity and brutality of the police state that our elected officials have created around us.
So, Mr. Guevara, you're the cop called in to escort this person out of the classroom. They refuse to move. What do you do?
Ah, Mr. Guevara is it? What condescending politicized name shall I pick for you then....hmmm. Ah, I think I got it. Well, to answer your question Mr. Pinochet, we need look no further than a post by someone who seems to be more from your line of thinking in this thread: Also, as I said earlier in this thread -- instead of sending cops to deal with disturbed children our society should be sending counselors trained in child psychology. Our society should devote more resources into mental health and less on cops, since cops are so often idiotic thugs who only escalate situations and make things worse.
You're the one talking about violent revolution. It's not condescending as much as it is satirically accurate. So, now that you have the hindsight of my friend's advice (how convenient for you), the person refuses to leave their desk even then. What now? Cancel classes for the rest of the day on account of not wanting to lay a hand on another human being? Seems reasonable. At worst, the cop forgot to clear the area for the safety of the kid and those around them. If you are expelled from class/school and refuse to leave, you don't have a right to stay there. As much as you want it to be, this is simply not a case of police brutality, and you're hurting your cause by crying wolf when there's far better examples out there.
A justified way, but not the best way. The cop didn't escalate the situation. He showed up and had a job to do. It is ultimately the admin/teacher's call to empty the room and/or push on with expelling the student, so ultimately I place the blame on them (aside from any blame on the student). The only way I blame the cop here is if he acted without consulting the teacher/admin.
Slamming a girl on her head and then tossing her across the room like a sack of potatoes because she didn't want to leave isn't justified. You've lost your sense of what's reasonable. This was a school classroom, not a bar.
You're editorializing the events and placing blame for the outcome of her removal, which she resisted significantly, on the officer. Not exactly fair. It's not a bar, but it's also not some safe space where you get to do whatever you want and nobody can say boo about it. Sorry, but you don't have a right to stay after you're expelled. Could they have tactically handled it better? Yes. Was physically removing her justified? Yes. Was it necessary? Judgment call on the shoulders of the teacher/admin.
I'm sick and tired of these arguments about how a police officer has to first of all do everything they can to preserve their own safety. What's the point of being a police officer then? You signed up for the uniform so you could keep the rest of us safe. Your first priority should be the safety of the subject, not yours. Punishment is for the courts. If you can't handle that, quit your job. Shoot and maim first, ask questions later is NOT an acceptable police policy. What is this, a third world country?
And you are the on talking about defending police brutality at all costs, so my name for you is similarly satirically accurate. Well, the truth does tend to be convenient for me. And we are not talking about "not laying a hand", we are talking about slamming a teenage girl to the ground and then throwing them across the room. No, if they refuse to leave (which the other poster pointed out is not what typically happens when the room is cleared), then optimally you would have a counselor speak to the student. If force needs to be used the level of force seen in that video is still not needed or acceptable. I mean, unless you are an authoritarian thug like the U.S. backed Pinochet -- which you seem to be. No, you are hurting your cause by defending a grown man treating a teenage girl who was not endangering anyone else in the way all of us with eyes saw them do in that video. Look, all I'll say is this -- if people like you keep mindlessly defending cops like this, then don't be surprised as more and more of the population becomes anti-cop.
No, I'm placing blame on the way it was handled. She didn't need to be slammed on her head and tossed across the room to be removed. You're completely ignoring the concept of proportionality. We don't give shoplifters the death penalty and we don't beat up little girls that won't leave a classroom. Just like we don't slam teenage girls in bikinis on the ground because they're smart asses. This is just like that pool party video. A ridiculous display of brutality when it was completely uncalled for.
More editorializing. If you can watch that video and see ill-intent (which the video clearly does not show), then you should probably stop and ask yourself the following: What's more plausible? A) The cop was trying to get her out of the desk/classroom so he could go back to playing Candy Crush and eating Cheetohs B) The cop was trying to hurt her in front of the administration, the teacher, and a room full of camera phone wielding teenagers
Teachers go to the school cop too quick now. Just let the disruptive student sit there, ignore them. Then, you can give them detention later, tell the parents, etc.
Oh, the old more likely game. Like saying, what's more likely a cop is just looking to kill black people today or he's just doing his job. Jesus Christ. How stupid.
This is where the employees failed. They should not have called the cop for what amounts to a disciplinary measure. The cop was just doing his job, but he probably never should have been asked to do it.
