Also, I would fire Smith and bring in Duke Tobin who has been looking for a promotion for years from the Bengals and hasn't gotten it. Could probably entice him and looking at the Bengals roster and record it looks like he's done a really good job. Also has pedigree, his dad Former Colts GM is now a scout with the Bengals. If you get Duke you get Bill. Other pipe dreams, Eric Decosta who's Ozzie's successor. Other options, Chris Ballard from the Chiefs and Tom Gamble from the Eagles/49ers.
That's another thing that bothers me about how this season is going down (literally). No one in the national media is talking about what's wrong with the Texans. No one even cares. Besides JJ Watt, we really are COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT on the national NFL landscape.
Over the last decade we have basically been a .500 franchise. We are blissfully mediocre. Almost never good enough to care, and rarely terrible enough to be a national joke.
I tend to agree with you here (except for the part about Crane. (I'm STILL pissed off about how he sold the Astros to the American League). OK, let's just say that McNair does what you (and a lot of others) want and executes a complete franchise reboot. You have to know that such a thing will take somewhere from 3 to 5 years and maybe even more depending on how lucky they get in picking a GM, head coach, etc. During this period, the Texans are bound to be a godawful football team. You will essentially become Jacksonville. JJ Watt, Clowney, Foster, DeAndre Hopkins - all will most likely be gone. Indy will have time to get it's act straight (looks like Pagano is a goner) while the t*** will develop under Ken Whisenhunt and build around Mariotta. You'd still be in the same boat that you're in today: no real progress unless you find that franchise QB. And with college programs more and more using spread offenses that produce QBs who aren't ready (or able) to man that position in the pros, that becomes an iffy proposition at best. Did I mention that this could go on until 2020? Now, if you want to scrap everything in year two of the O'Brien tenure, just how do you plan to sell the Houston fans on 5 more years of football futility? Not saying that what you propose is wrong - it isn't - but it may take more time than the fans are willing to give McNair because in the NFL, the hardest thing of all is to put into place a competent, winning organization - it's the one constant you find amongst the NFL's bottom dwellers. That's the first thing you must have before you can put a winning team on the field. It's been 13 years (and counting) and McNair still hasn't been able to get that part right yet hence you have what you have today. At some point, your past mistakes will catch up with you and for the Texans, that time is now. I honestly don't know where they go from here.
Brandon Marshall is not as good as Hopkins. Decker was really bad last year. Ivory was pathetic last year too. What changed so much? Obviously Fitzpatrick is not the long term solution at QB but no way he could have made the team worse than it is now. And a year into the new system, who knows how better he would have been. Plus they're all backup QBs IMO Ironic that the Jets OL coach last year is now with the Texans.
Surely you can't be all that surprised about this? Outside of the Houston-Beaumont-Port Arthur area the Texans don't even rate a blimp on the state's football radar. I can guarantee you that today, more folks statewide are discussing the Cows predicament especially the Greg Hardy sideline "incident". No one cares because this franchise is the beigest of beige. They haven't won anything and hence, there's no reason to pay attention to them. It will be so until they change the narrative on the field.
Yeah I'm not expecting him to be fired but I think a lot of the problems with this team starts with him.
Irrelevant is the word for this Texans franchise. Are they the absolute worst in the NFL? No, but they have pretty much always been irrelevant. I can see an argument for 2012 being the exception (we were irrelevant when the playoffs started, but that was due to injury), but one* season of relevancy in 14 years? smgdh. *2 if you want to be very generous and include 2011
Uhhhhhhhh you realize we are god awful RIGHT NOW. Teams can turn around quickly in the NFL but you need good talent evaluators and we just do not have that right now. Whether its the coach or the GM, something needs to change if there is any hope for the future.
I'm adopting the Bengals. Wife's family is from Cincy, her brothers and her extended family are all Bengals fans. Andy Dalton went to my high school. I feel like this is a smooth and easy transition. I need someone to root for who doesn't repeatedly stand on my testicles every Sunday.
Yep..there's absolutely a cost to fixing the problem, and it takes time to due. Again, just ask the Astros. But there isn't a shortcut to building a good organization.
Don't they put cinnamon in their chili and eat it with spaghetti in Cincinnati...??? That alone is enough reason not to jump on the Cincinnati bandwagon.
They're not godawful - they just stink on ice. Godawful is Jacksonville which we don't want to be. Inept is Cleveland, Detroit or Buffalo. The Texans remind me of Chicago - another team that's paying the price for bad decisions in the past.
They do, and it's horrible. I didn't say I was moving there. :grin: But if you could turn the Texans season into some sort of food, it'd taste worse than their chili. By far.
