[Another day in America] John Henson racially profiled at jewelry store

Racism against black people throughout recent history has been very very specific. It is quite simply "Anything associated with those people. Is bad." from the physical appearance to anything else. These ideals were not put away until very recently. Before someone brings up the Jews, it's not the same. Every situation in history is different and complex. This is not to argue over who had it worse or better as I don't care to engage in that conversation.

Thankfully yes, these ideas are fading away. It's good to see black women for instance not be ashamed of their hair or think it is ugly or wrong or not feel jealous because their skin isn't light caramel...

Yet still you see it here. That black people have a bad culture. I always ask "What is black culture and why is it bad?" I've not received an answer that has satisfied me. How is rap worse than rock or in general the violent and celebrated fast life that America has always glamorized? Rap is its own culture that doesn't involve being black at all.

Any ways as time passes and less people stop believing in the crap that your physical appearance dictates your personality/traits the more people can actually just be celebrated for their differences instead of separated by them.

 

That's because there is no such thing as "black culture". Those who think that there is are showing an out-group homogenity bias.

 

A bit of an oversimplification because many African-Americans have roots in South America and the Caribbean. Very few Africans were brought directly from the motherland to what is now the U.S. Estimates I've seen place that number around 10%.

But point taken.

 

If they have citizenship then they are citizens, I want then here. There is a ton of potntial in the African American community and I sincerely hope all that potential benefits this country.

 

The reporting comes from CNN which isn't liberal, but the sources are valid studies. If you can show the studies are flawed than do so, otherwise you are just using the sites that reported on the valid studies as an excuse to not deal with the issue.

That isn't the fault of anyone but yourself.

 

Oh definitely. That's why it's always a fun question to ask when people bring up that it is a culture issue.

 

FB, always glad for your replies old friend!!! CNN being liberal is very subjective. Even then I lean on my on personal experiences. My personal experiences have no agenda, only reality and I have not seen what they report. I would gladly admit it and call my company out on it if it were true but I just don't see it in real life.

 

Again, it just seemed like you didn't know about Native Americans speaking out against some of the issues you had, because you said you never see or hear about it. So I just posted some examples of them speaking out and lodging valid complaints.

There are plenty of studies showing how not just in the United States but around the world the populations of people have been colonized, conquered, or enslaved are different from immigrants who came to a place voluntarily. It is true of Hawaiian populations, African American Populations, Mexican American populations in places that were once part of Mexico, and in other nations around the world such as with Koreans in Japan, etc., studies show the same things.

I don't know what to tell you.

I will say that bringing up these real problems doesn't mean people shouldn't try their best and work as hard as possible to succeed. Most actually do. But it is possible to still work and try to succeed and also speak out against the problems affecting certain communities in this nation.

 

You do understand that your own personal experiences have no real relevance on general populations and conditions, right? Actual valid studies have more accuracy than just your personal experiences.

 

Studies from left leaning entities have little sway with me. I always tend to fall back on real life experiences. It has about the same effect as me posting something from Rush Limbaugh, FOX News , or Brietbart to you. You would call me out for posting conservative slanted material. I see CNN and MSNBC as liberal slanted. Truth be told I even question right leaning studies if they contradict what I see in real life.

 

Neil Degrasse Tyson didn't grow up in the ghetto. Yes you can overcome great hurdles. Opportunities are there. But you have to know that the hurdles for a black child in an impoverished area are incredibly high - so high that very few overcome them. To say that if one can do it all can do it isn't realistic. When your environment is horribly negative, it is very difficult to overcome. Very.

There is a bias against blacks. It's not this made up thing. It's very real. Yes you can overcome it, but it shouldn't be something that one must overcome.

Racism is very prevalent. It exists strongly today. I experience it often still and I am not even black. You don't know until you walk in the shoes of someone. Most people who are biased don't even realize it. It's rationalized and excused.

I ask you to take the IAT from harvard just for your own sake. Takes 15 minutes - see for yourself.

I do not seek your respect. I respect myself and that is enough. We have to teach every american kid to respect themselves and that no one should tell them what they can or can not be. That takes hard work.

Our greatest battle as a nation isn't ISIS, it's the waste of human minds that is happening to the poorest of Americans.

 

Uhhh then why are you even arguing in this thread since this profiling really happened

 

Starting to wonder if there is another reason why some posters in the GRAM are so quick to turn on the team based on some of the comments in this thread.

 

College does nothing without the right connections. More valuable than the actual education is the social/employment opportunity network involved with college. If you can't get into that network than college is just a business cash grab you lose on.

 

It's having no political power whatsoever that is dis concerning. For example a prominent school system near the Bay Area tried to cover up a bullying incident where an Asian kid sustained a fractured. The kid knows the bully that tripped him and caused it but the school system is trying to cover it all up by saying he tripped on a pencil. They refuse to pay for his medical bills.
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That's the thing that happens when you are super marginalized and considered too insignificant.

 

This hasn't been my experience, nor has it been the experience of a single person I know. It was more, you just sent out your resumes after graduating. Attended as many interviews as you could using your college's career center or attending hiring events for new college hires. It will still be difficult to find a job, especially if you're GPA is lower or you chose a major that wasn't very practical. I think the economy is also still tougher on college grads and hasn't yet recovered from the recession.

But if you think the vast majority of college grads get their job through some underground connection network, then I think you've maybe watched too many movies. That or you think way too highly of college. I'm sure there are some Ivy League connections between extremely wealthy parents. But for 99% of people graduating college, there really is no elite, ready-made path to jobs. Not sure where you get that from.

 

Many Jews living in the West either find Israeli a burden or are oblivious to them altogether. I know many people think it's some kind of unjustifiable state, including many Western Jews, but if the United States, South Africa, Aus, and New Zealand are allowed to exist so should Israel. My point is a religion doesn't define a group, there are many various beliefs and circumstances within particular individuals and subsets. Israelis as a whole live a vastly difficult life within shifting war zones (bombings and massacre attempts) that come. The US favors it merely because it's the only true ally in the Middle East. There is no 'Jewish' conspiracy because the people vastly different from one another is my point.

 

Right.

This networking thing Liberon is talking about is really just making friends throughout your college career. Once you graduate and go into different companies and cities, then those are your connections. That's how it has been with me at least.

 

Yes, I know this and agree.

I just brought it up because it is always brought up. "Well the Jews had the holocaust and look at them! Get over it!" it has been brought up several times in this thread already.

My point is the Holocaust and Slave Trade/Segregation are completely different things that should not be compared.