[Another day in America] John Henson racially profiled at jewelry store

That was some awesome pointless verbiage amirite?

 

No, I didn't read the article. There's an active discussion with more than enough extant information, original insights and personal experience floating around to not need to go offline to placate your insults or validate your reading lists.

 

There's another old saying: "Once you go on my ignore list, you disappear forever." Goodbye. (Would you add me to your ignore list please.)

 

You know it was once illegal to teach blacks to read? You know during slavery black families were systematically destroyed, e.g. separating mother from children, enforcing procreation between unmarried people? You know many living people grew up in a time when they were forced to attend all-black schools? Say a black person is fifty-five years old in the south . . . They were born into segregation. Now you expect their kids to be the same as the kids of a fifty-five year-old white person?

Grow up.

 

I wonder why i never hear Native American's complaining? Hmm...are they like all dead or something? I wonder if they would start to complain after there was a Native American president and Native American celebrities everywhere.

Haha Just had a funny thought...could you imagine if there was a sports team called Blackskins? Sheesh. Riots would break out for sure.

I wonder if Jews still think about how the Egyptians treated them? 400+ years of slavery? Man. They must hold a grudge against modern day Egyptians. I bet they hate Italians too. They sure didn't get along with those Romans. Roman empire lasted something like 500 years last i remember.

OH! Gee Wiz!! I totally forgot about the whole deal with German too...what was that called again? I don't remember but there was like 6 million of them killed in a relatively short amount of time. Sheesh. Poor guys.

But those African Americans though...man i'm crying just thinking about it. I'm going to go watch a movie with famous black actors or read a book from a famous black author or watch President Obama's speech's to inspire me and give me hope for the future. I'll say a prayer tonight in hopes that they one day have at least a chance to return to their native homeland and rejoin their people in Africa and all come together to rebuild the next greatest empire.
Not only white Americans but anyone who is white in this world should be ashamed of themselves for what was done. I hope their children's children's children's children's children's children pass on the shame and guilt.

 

How many Native Americans do you know? How many do you hear on TV? Ever been to a Native American nation? I guess that's why you never hear them.

So you think Jews have no bad feelings about the Holocaust. . . . How old are you?

Your discussion of white people feeling shame or not is irrelevant to this thread.

 

This is probably the dumbest post I've read in a while.

 

Dumb? Irrelevant?

 

If you don't mind, I would like for you to go on twitter and type the following :

#dearnonnatives

Read the tweets you find. Afterwards, come back and tell us what you have found

 

Wow, you laid out what caused the problems in black society but forgot one important point. This is 2015. Changes were made 50 years ago to right the wrongs of the past. What happened in the past is truly tragic and America should be ashamed but it is now in the past. There is nothing holding them back now except themselves. It is going to take a cultural change amongst black people to fix the problems that exist today. Will they encounter some racism in the process?? I would say yes as there are still and always will be idiots in the world. Dwelling on the wrongs of the past does nothing to help black people. They should be always taught about their tragic history but should also be taught that they are fully Americans now with all the rights and opportunities that come with that. They should be taught that they have the ability to rise above their situations with hard work and education. In general, they need to quit dwelling on the past (but never forget it) and look to the future which is what they make of it.

 

Who says there is a "plot"? Dude, no straw men ok? Let's be serious - don't argue against things I am not asserting ok?

You say the same opportunities exist for anyone and all it takes is hard work? What about kids who have to go to substandard schools? What about kids who are told by teachers they aren't going to amount to much? What about kids who don't get support or tools or books that other kids get? Why about kids who have no parents at home because they are busy working? What about kids who don't have enough to eat? How is that the same opportunity to focus on success? We're talking about kids here.

So you are saying it is cultural? That black culture is to blame? And the gov't provides for black children? Do you know what the typical child that has a mother on welfare's life is like? Do you know that welfare is very small and is time limited? I just ask because you make these statements very casually and I am curious if you actually know the reality. I would assert that without knowing you are actually showing extreme bias by making things up. Are you saying if the gov't completely ended welfare, the crime rate would drop?

So you are saying little kids pay attention to Jesse Jackson and Sharpton? Kids follow political leaders? I just want you to clarify that. There are cases when young children of impoverished communities do obtain success - do you know what happened to turn these kids around?

So you are saying black kids are lazy right because they just see lazy black people all around them? Sounds like you are dancing around my question here, I just want to understand what you actually think. It's a lack of role models - let me ask you this. Who are white kids role models? Is it Paul Ryan? Is it an accountant? Just curious as to what you think the difference there is...

So you are saying that kids without a father are more likely to commit a crime and have sex and make babies because they didn't have a father to teach them otherwise?

I have no idea what you are babbling on about. No one is poo-pooing hard work. I am just asking a question - why are poor blacks not successful at the same rate as poor immigrants. You are saying it is work ethic, and I am asking why don't they have the same work ethic.

The motiff of the lazy black man runs in U.S. history since it's beginning. Ever hear of sambo?

 

Wait someone really called Dwight lazy...lmfaooooo

Who came back early from back surgery
The man who played with a bad back and torn labrum a whole season lazy.

Im dying over here

 

You say no "straw man" but the racism card is a "straw man" argument in this day and age and is a huge cop out. Remember when you point a finger there are three fingers pointing back at you. The ONLY reason you can point to for black people being unsuccessful is racism yet other minorities seem to flourish under the same circumstances. When do you take responsibility for the situation??? I assume you are a black man who is successful???(I could be wrong). Why not take any black child you can under your wing and teach them they can succeed in life with hard work and taking advantage of their opportunities??? That is the ONLY thing that will actually help this situation.

Lou, I am not saying welfare is a good thing. It should be a hand up not a hand out. We do need a welfare system as a safety net but it should never be a way of life.

I am quite sure they succeeded based on hard work and taking advantage of the opportunities available to all Americans.

My parents were my role model. If I had ANY advantage over many black people it was that I was raised in a two parent middle class household that taught me I can do whatever I strive to do in this country. My father was never more than an hourly mechanic at a chemical plant in the Beaumont area. He made a good living for our family but I have taken advantage of my opportunities and now I am in a high level management position in the same industry.

Does this even need a response???? Come on Lou, open your eyes. This is a huge problem in the black culture.

 

Your original comments regarding the "lie" of working hard are what my initial response and all of the following exchanges have stemmed from. If you gauge the accomplishments of hundreds of millions of people and then subdivide them by demographic traits there will obviously be disparities between different cohorts. Those disparities don't prove any targeted efforts or sabotage against specific groups' performance, nor does they dispel the impact of resources and institutions abundantly available to facilitate individual success, regardless of one's race.

 

He knows very little about anything that can't be explained with ole timey slogans, old fashioned know how, and biblical prophecy. He is like literally the most ignorant regular poster in this forum.

 

Sweet Lou, I will add that the history of the black culture is absolutely terrible. America should be ashamed. Nobody can argue that fact. You should never forget it and it should ALWAYS be taught but in this day and age anyone can succeed with hard work.

 

Hey CW, how are you doing my friend??? Hope you are doing well with letting go of all your hate you hold onto so bitterly.

 

If you got a crap education in elementary school, for example, there's more going on than "dwelling on the past." You can't go back and get a do-over. Do you not understand that people's development in earlier stages of life affects them at later stages?

Likewise, society can't get a do-over on segregation. Segregation had effects; racism had effects; and you can't just make them evaporate by sheer force of will.

You even say people will still suffer from racism. How does that constitute them dwelling on the past?

 

You've probably not made much of an effort so you shouldn't wonder much.