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CNN Democrat Debate

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by val_modus, Oct 13, 2015.

  1. cml750

    cml750 Member

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    It is not hard to believe the truth.
     
  2. Mr.Scarface

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    Trump Vs. Clinton? Hillary everyday including Sunday. Losing to Obama then becoming SOS, helped Hillary in the long run. Obama did the heavy lifting for the Democrats by stabilizing and stopping a depression, rebounding job growth, getting Obamacare passed, equality for LBGT, voting no on Keystone pipeline, winding down the 2 wars and getting bin Laden.

    Hillary can build on what Obama has done by improving the parts of Obamacare that need to be fixed, doing something with Gun control, Not ****ing up the economy (should be an issue), do more on Climate change, and doing more to improve crumbling infrastructure.
     
  3. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    Then you just should never vote because you won't find a major politician on either side that isn't tainted by this kind of stuff.
     
  4. HamJam

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    Maybe. But can you give me the example of Sanders being tainted by something like this?
     
  5. Dubious

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    Do you know how a bill becomes a law?
    Do you know where tax bills originate?
    Do you know who is the head of the House Ways and Means Committee?
    Do you know what the Executive Branch does?
    Do you know what the implications of the national debt are?
    Do you know what fiat money is?
     
  6. mc mark

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    Knowledge is power (and it keeps you from looking like an idiot).

    From the CBO

    An Update to the Budget and Economic Outlook: 2015 to 2025

    One of the most common stories that Republicans tell about President Obama is that he has devastated American by inflating the nation’s debt. It’s hard for them to understand that the two wars President Obama inherited, along with a crippled economy by George Bush administration, caused much of the $18 trillion deficit.

    Republicans have something else to be angry about now though as their favorite point is being taken away. Current projections show that President Obama’s administration is on target to eliminate the national deficit by 2017. Further, the deficit has already been cut by two-thirds since he came into office.
     
  7. digitallinh

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    Here I'll respond for them.

    BENGHAZI!!!
     
  8. mc mark

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    It's amazing right?

    This is simple information that is easy for anyone to find if they are honest and seek the truth.
     
  9. rocketsjudoka

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    Yes of course the Madame Secretary character isn't based on Clinton either way except for the most obvious.

    Also to add sensitivity and feminine-ness are fairly subjective terms. That you might not feel that Clinton has those qualities might say more about your own bias.
     
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  10. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Hillary Clinton was the third female US Secretary of State.
     
  11. rocketsjudoka

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    Yet a show about a woman Secretary of State was not made quickly after the terms of Madeline Albright or Condeleeza Rice.
     
  12. rocketsjudoka

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    Anyway the producers of "Madame Secretary" themselves say that it was influenced by Hillary Clinton. To tie it to recent events in fact to her first Benghazi hearing.

    As a nod to Stupidmoniker it does look like Madeline Albright also influenced the show.
    http://deadline.com/2014/07/tca-cbs...inton-and-benghazi-exec-producer-says-805476/
    [rquoter]TCA: CBS’ ‘Madam Secretary’ Sprang From Hillary Clinton And Benghazi, Exec Producer Says

    CBS‘ new drama series Madam Secretary, in which Tea Leoni plays the Secretary of State, came about because of Hillary Clinton and Benghazi, exec producer Lori McCreary told TV critics today at TCA Summer TV Press Tour 2014.

    McCreary said she and Morgan Freeman had lunch with CBS Entertainment chairman Nina Tassler about producing a scripted series for the network, after which, McCreary says, they set about “trying to come up with a great character…And then, guess what happened — the Benghazi hearings,” McCreary said. They went back to Tassler with the idea of a series about what it’s like to be the female Secretary of State, “and how it translates overseas when rights for women are not what they are here,” she said. Tassler introduced them to Joan Of Arcadia creator Barbara Hall, who “took that kernel of an idea” and ran with it.

    In Madam Secretary, Tea Leoni plays Elizabeth McCord, a former CIA analyst who becomes the shrewd, determined, newly appointed Secretary of State, driving international diplomacy, battling office politics, and circumventing protocol as she negotiates global and domestic issues both at the White House and at home. This is not to be confused with NBC’s new State Of Affairs, in which Katherine Heigl plays a tough CIA analyst, who presents the U.S. President’s daily briefing on security issues facing the country, or ABC’s returning Scandal, in which Kerry Washington plays the White House’s favorite tough-as-nails crisis manager/creator.

    Hillary Clinton Discusses Her New Book In Washington, DCOne critic wondered, given the likelihood Clinton will run for president again, why the series isn’t called Madam President. Exec producer Freeman said no such idea came across his desk. “But then, there’s Season 4,” Leoni joked/hinted. Freeman dodged the saw-it-coming-from-a-mile-off question as to whether he would show up in the series playing a former or future POTUS.

    Asked if she had met with any of the three recent female Secretaries of State as she prepped the series, Hall mentioned former Secretary of State Madeline Albright, who was introduced to her by Tim Daly, who plays Leoni’s religion-professor husband on the series. Daly who is well-connected in Washington as president of The Creative Coalition — the nonprofit advocacy group formed of members of the entertainment industry — called Albright “my White House Correspondents Dinner girlfriend. She became very close and she gives the best [worldwide] restaurant recommendations of anyone I’ve ever known,” Daly added. He hinted his role on the show will grow in upcoming episodes, saying coyly, “You may have noticed religion has played a significant role in the …violent conflicts around the world.”

    “She’s very eager to weigh in and help us; she’s very excited about the show,” Hall said of her meeting with Albright. Nobody pressed Hall as to whether she’d met with Clinton for the show, which Hall said is set about five years in the future — so if she were to write an episode about a Benghazi-ish situation, for instances, there would be references to Benzhazi as being a previous attack. Hall wanted the Clinton…er, McCord character have a “successful and realistic” marriage — if not a “perfect” one, because the TV trope of a woman in a strong position of leadership whose life is broken everywhere else is so over — or words to that effect. “We as women have to overcome that image,” Hall urged.

    One critic called the pilot episode “prescient” because it involves a terrorist group that uses Facebook. Hall said she used the story of American kids kidnapped in Syria because it would be “recognizable to people who are not necessarily schooled in international politics.”

    Signing Leoni to the series was considered quite a “get.” The actress, who has stayed away from network television since 1998 when her NBC sitcom The Naked Truth ended its run, had been approached for pilots ever since, but her only TV gig in the past 15 years was the 2011 HBO pilot Spring/Fall. Asked about her decision to return to series TV with this series, Leoni said the decision was as simple as her kids turning 12 and 15 and the younger telling her, “I’m getting kinda sick of you….So, I’m back.”[/rquoter]

    Not to side track this discussion further about Madame Secretary, my original point is that many here fail to understand why Hillary Clinton is so popular. Her gender is one and I think that the D&D is so male is why that is downplayed but also that she is very capable on her own besides being the wife of Bill Clinton.
     
  13. Dubious

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    I just would rather have my Tea Leoni boner not ever associated with Ms. Clinton please.
     
  14. cml750

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    Delete. Double post!
     
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  15. cml750

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    I love it when a liberal post a link to something they don't read that makes them look like an ass.
     
  16. cml750

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    I understand everything you questioned, you obviously must not. Hint, education is your friend!!!!
     
  17. MoonDogg

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    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/tyeJ55o3El0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
  18. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Irony.
     
  19. val_modus

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    If you make a statement that includes "Republicans handing Obama everything he wants" then I'm afraid you aren't living in the realm of observable reality lol.
     
  20. mclawson

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    Are you kidding? If there's one thing congress has been known for these past 7 years it's bending over backwards to pass all legislation Obama wants passed. They get giddy with excitement at the chance to sign off on new legislation just for him, which is why this congress has been lauded for the sheet amount of bills it has passed! I'm pretty sure I've read dozens of articles to that point.
     

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