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Enough with the Terrence Jones talk

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by csc177, Oct 16, 2015.

  1. dmoneybangbang

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    Not all of them open, but your point illustrates why TJones fits well with the starting unit. He plays great off the ball and plays facing the basketball as a forward with his handles.
     
  2. dmoneybangbang

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    He's an interesting forward he also flashed some skills last season before an injury(ies) put a big question mark on him.

    I see TJones and DMo as yin and yang.

    Their skills mesh well on this team.
     
  3. Bobbythegreat

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    Everyone does well making open baskets under the rim that others set up for them....

    For the most part Jones just takes up space in the starting lineup without really contributing much of value to that unit. Now of course if he takes a step forward defensively to where he can hold his own and if the flashes of him being able to create his own shot in one or two preseason games aren't just a result of it being the preseason then he might have something of value to add this season that he never had before, but being able to make an open dunk when the defense closes in on Harden and he makes a perfect pass isn't some amazing skill that others can't do. It certainly doesn't make up for his lack of a consistent 3 point shot which hurts the spacing with the starting unit.

    Either way, we'll probably get to see quite a bit of Jones with the starting unit till DMo gets back so we'll just see how it goes and how long before the move to the bench happens.
     
  4. don grahamleone

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    His per 36 minutes scoring stats are identical to his regular season numbers, McHale just preferred Josh Smith and rightly so. Jones' rebounding in the playoffs has been suspect though.

    Are people saying DMo is elite? He is definitely good and the numbers back that up.
     
  5. Mr. Clutch

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    Yes for a while people were saying he was an elite rim protector based on flawed stats. Then he was forced to play center and it wasn't great
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  6. Bobbythegreat

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    The only thing even close to accurate that Mr. Clutch said was about DMo's rim protection while playing PF, "elite" is a bit of a stretch but he is one of the best defensive PF's at the rim in the league. His season numbers ended up falling off due to playing center....but that would happen to just about any PF in the league when they spend a large portion of the season playing out of position.

    Of course when some people hear "rim protection" they think that means only blocks, and we all know that's not really part of DMo's game so that was probably what Mr. Clutch was trolling on about.
     
  7. omgTHEpotential

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    Mr. Clutch is a bit of an agenda poster himself, trying to balance it out a bit. He provided a lot of ridiculous statements and mixed DMo's rim protection among them to make it seem DMo is a terrible rim protector, which is false. While DMo is certainly not elite, he's above average in that area.
     
  8. Mr. Clutch

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    What are you talking about?

    The stats didn't include percentage of shots challenged where DMo was low. He doesn't contest many shots.

    I've always said he's a better defender than TJones but elite like Dwight or Gobert is laughable.

    No agenda. Just facts.
     
  9. Mr. Clutch

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    Actually I was talking about rim protection. You have no proof that he is one of the best PFs at it.

    He's a good positional defender who can draw charges.

    Blocking and changing shots is part of it. Almost every elite rim defender can block shots. And DMo is terrible at it.

    Acting like blocking shots has zero to do with defense is exactly the kind of crazy thing an agenda poster would say.
     
  10. Bobbythegreat

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    I think he just likes to troll a lot of the time. It's cool because I don't really take it seriously because like you said, he throws in a lot of ridiculous statements.

    I think saying that DMo is an above average rim protector, while playing PF, is completely fair.
     
  11. Mr. Clutch

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    Great. No one said that wasn't fair.

    Don't act like you weren't calling him elite last year with an incomplete stat.

    Like I said, your agenda is showing
     
  12. Bobbythegreat

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  13. Mr. Clutch

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    Well at least you admit DMo is only above average on defense and not elite like you were claiming last year
     
  14. alleyoop

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    Player X plays in 71 games/ starts in 61 for 28.7 mins per and has 7 double doubles while shooting 50.4% from the field.

    While player Y plays in 33 games/ starts in 24 for 26.9 mins per and has 8 double doubles while shooting 52.8% from the field.

    Yet the argument is player Y needs to sit or be exiled in place of player X due to lack of finishing around the rim and the lack of consistent production:confused:

    women lie, men lie... numbers don't

    Less mins and half the opportunities but more production

    The bias for Dmo is silly when the evidence simply doesn't support the why.
    Revising history based on jaded memories and emotions with little to no substance and stating worthiness as fact or obvious is silly and illogical

    As a realistic Rocket's fan I am happy to have two viable options the PF spot since we don't have an allstar here.
     
  15. Htownballer38

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    This is by far the most asinine comment you've made so far. We have one of the most prolific offense in the game, and that't with Jones in it. So how in the world he just takes up space and doesn't contribute anything of value. Man you're a piece of work.

    And when Dmo gets back, he will be coming off the BENCH unless Howard sustains another injury.
     
  16. Bobbythegreat

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    Sure, he'll come off the bench for a while till he gets his conditioning right then he'll take back over as the starting PF. Try not to take it too hard once it happens, it'll be okay I promise.
     
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  18. alleyoop

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    Is that better than 36 points and 11 rebounds?
    Or how about 7 blocks in one game compared to 3?
     
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    yes, it is.
     
  20. Htownballer38

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    At the start of what season has Dmo started?

    I'm not you home boy. You've been wrong since day 1 about Jones, that's why you keep this BS shenanigans going on in every freaking forum that you are in.

    Again McHale doesn't share your ludicrous way of thinking when it comes to basketball.
     

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