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[Movie] Star Wars Episode VII

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by K mf G, Nov 8, 2013.

  1. ROXTXIA

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    My girlfriend at the time "The Phantom Menace" came out put it best: "This whiny brat is going to be Darth Vader?"

    And then in the second movie the whiny brat had grown up to be Hayden Christensen. Anakin Skywalker, born a whiner and just grew bigger.

    I'm the sort who hates to see people embarrass themselves or be put in that sort of situation. Between Hayden Christensen's awful acting and George Lucas's tin-ear dialogue, I was actually sitting in the theater looking at the tops of my sneakers while Anakin was "seducing" Padme at, well, Lake Como:

    "I hate sand. It's gritty and gets over everything." (looks at Padme with expression of teen-boner approaching) "But not here. Here things are soft...."

    Yeah, Darth, you sure know how to make a girl moist. That scene was a microcosm of Episodes I and II.

    At least by "Clones" he had dropped most of the bad ethnic stereotyping (hook-nosed Semitic money-grubbing creature, the badly-dubbed-Chinese-movie speech of the Trade Federation dudes, and Jar Jar Effing Binks).

    George finally got his game back together a bit for Episode III, probably knowing it would be the last "Star Wars" he directed (un-filmed sequels notwithstanding, from what I read, his heart wasn't in it).

    This new movie looks like the director actually cares that his actors, you know, act. We'll see about the story and dialogue, but I have high hopes. Kinda psyched.
     
  2. mfastx

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    Current Star Wars movies in order from best to worst:

    1) Empire Strikes Back
    2) A New Hope
    3) Revenge of the Sith
    4) Return of the Jedi
    5) Attack of the Clone
    6) Phantom Menace

    I bet Force Awakens ends up top 3.
     
  3. sealclubber1016

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    Yeah, by far my biggest complaint about the prequels was that they miscast their focal character... twice.

    Out of the hundreds of people they interviewed those 2 were the ones that stood out. Hayden Christensen wasn't good in the 3rd movie either, he was just less bad. I swear every line of dialogue Anakin uttered felt like an actor reading a line of dialogue, lines that were poorly written to begin with.
     
  4. Obito

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    I really hope they at least reveal the bigger villain in this film. Not too crazy about Kylo Ren & Phasma. Kylo Ren's mask design is lazy, he looks like Revan (don't tease me like that.)

    Although I will say it's about time someone thinks of a lightsaber design that counters the wrist/hand weakness, seriously how many people have lost their hands already? Dooku, Windu, Vader (twice, lol), Luke?
     
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  5. ima_drummer2k

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    Probably a dumb question, but this is going to have the crawl at the beginning, right? It wouldn't even feel like Star Wars without that opening crawl and theme.
     
  6. GRENDEL

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    Yeah I think it's safe to assume the crawl will be there.....
     
  7. Nick

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    Crawl yes.. but since its Disney now, They won't have the 20th century fox "fanfare" that played right before "a long time ago" appears (the drumroll and trumpet theme).

    Then again, maybe they cut a deal with Fox to include it... because it is so damn iconic (to the point that when I watched the Martian the other day, and they played it, my brain is still wired to see the "a long time ago" whenever I hear it).

    EDIT: Nah, they won't have it... here's what will likely be played before the crawl/main title:
    <blockquote class="twitter-video" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here's the new fanfare that replaces the 20th Century Fox jazz. <a href="http://t.co/xz7dt16Kfy">pic.twitter.com/xz7dt16Kfy</a></p>&mdash; Jason Voorhees Ward (@MakingStarWars) <a href="https://twitter.com/MakingStarWars/status/586387893318369280">April 10, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
     
  8. Surfguy

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    They should have replaced Hayden Christensen with Eric Stoltz early in filming. No doubt in my mind he would have been great in the role. A little old...maybe. lol
     
  9. DonkeyMagic

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    great scott!
     
  10. peleincubus

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    this is who should have been anakin. (replace stick with lightsaber)

    [​IMG]
     
  11. Jontro

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    My pick for Anakin:

    [​IMG]

    He's practically a Jedi.
     
  12. PhiSlammaJamma

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    Help yourself to some delicious snacks and drinks in the back. Class dismissed.

    Anakin:

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  13. FLAGRANT1

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    I thinks its obvious who young Vader should have been
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  14. justtxyank

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    It should have been Leo DiCaprio and he was the original choice for George Lucas from the beginning.

    Little known facts: Ryan Phillipe and Paul Walker also auditioned for the role.
     
  15. Nero

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    The movie TRAILER has only been out for THREE DAYS, and on YouTube alone, it has already amassed almost 37 MILLIONS VIEWS.

    The movie will not hit theaters for two months, and already has over SIX MILLIONS PRE-SOLD TICKETS.

    This is how hungry the public is for Star Wars. And we have ALWAYS been this hungry for it, ever since 1977.

    George Lucas is the single most fortunate idiot in the history of the world.

    No matter what he claims now, way back at the beginning, he declared that there would eventually be nine films in the series. Long time fans have always known it, doesn't matter what he has said since.

    He did his inept best to destroy the franchise completely, by making four films which should never be viewed by human beings. The first two were not under his control, the production process (along with himself) was 'managed' by skilled film-makers. Once he had wrested control and ownership away from Fox, that's when the complete putrid garbage began.

    He never made any secret of hating working with actors; he openly dreamed of a day when he could use 'virtual actors', so he could just move them where he wanted to go and say what he wanted them to say (some might claim Natalie Portman's performance in Phantom Menace to be evidence that this has already happened, as there has never been a more robotic or wooden performance in all of film history - very likely exactly what Lucas was seeking).

    And after finishing the 6th film, Lucas had become more and more offended that people didn't love 'his' Star Wars films as much as we loved the first two, and he threw his hands up and said 'I'm not making any more of them!'. Take THAT, ingrates.

    Well it only cost us, what was it? 4 billion? Disney paid Lucas' ransom and kindly kicked him and his idiotic 'treatment' out the door.

    We're FREEEE.

    Now Abrams better nail it. Even if he doesn't TOTALLY nail it, it can't NOT be a million times better than any of the previous four films.

    CAN NOT WAIT!!!!
     
  16. tinman

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    Why are people hating on return of the jedi?
     
  17. percicles

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    Ewoks
     
  18. Nero

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    Little robot feeties sticking out of the sand, to be picked up by a handy big magnet underneath their desert sand speeder.. sighhhhhh... the same exact menace as in the first movie.. Death Star.. midgets in fat teddy bear suits.. Orcs.. smh.. uber-cool Boba Fett being casually offed with shrieking indignity.. rehashing the 'I love you' bit from Empire.. rehashing the 'trench run' from Star Wars (But wait - this time, we'll be INSIDE the Death Star! Wow, great idea George! You are a genius George!).. blech

    Now was it as bad as the prequels? No, not by a long shot. The prequels occupy their very own plane of hell - there is literally not one single good thing in any of them. Nothing. They are abominations, utter wastes, desecration of our brightest youthful memories.

    Return of the Jedi just sucked generally.. heck, Lucas didn't even finish the first DRAFT of the script until after the first day of SHOOTING had started. The entire thing is just Lucas, having surrounded himself with butt-kissing yes-men, being lazy, and deciding that his first rough draft was good enough, and nobody told him 'no' (unlike on the first two films).

    There are going to be theaters showing all seven films in one day, you can buy tickets to see the entire run of them, culminating with the newest one. I thought about doing it, but then I realized I would be sitting through 3 pieces of utter crap, one lazy mess, and two legendary films.. I don't think my mood could be anything but spoiled by the time the new one started.. so I don't think I am going to do it.
     
  19. VanityHalfBlack

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    Anakin:

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    Should always be an Italian, always.
     
  20. Caesar

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    The only thing that can be saved from the PT, is:

    -John Williams score of course
    -Ewan Mcgregor as Obi
    -The set designs/planet designs
    -Darth Maul

    I would have said Jango Fett, but i don't like who was cast(he never seemed menacing enough..just an average pacific islander when a lot of islanders look huge and scary). Fett also led to the clones which i thought were terrible. The cgi heads floating over the clone trooper bodies makes me cringe.

    Pretty much every piece of dialogue in the entire trilogy feels like it was written by a pre teen boy or girl. Maybe the only cool part is when Palpatine and Anakin are talking about the dark side during the opera in Ep. III. But that was mostly cool due to John Williams awesome score and the entire opera looked pretty sweet.
    The droids trying to be funny is 2nd worse to Anakins dialogue and delivery in the entire trilogy.

    The entire cast is just wrong. From Padme(natalie portmans worst performances ever) to Anakin to Dooku to Grievou's stupid design and stupid voice. You never felt worry for the good guys because we can't take the bad guys seriously. Droids are lame and cant hit anything like stormtroopers. They seem like they were designed by an 8 year old with their silly personality. A super old man as a big bad sith? I loved Christopher Lee but he would have been better as a General. Grievous's voice is so cheesy and lame, it kills the character completely. His design as an insect looking alien in a suit was stupid too, especially with the coughing. Foreshadowing Vader was so unnecessary.

    Jar Jar, the trade federation and probably many more are just lame and also very racist.

    Too much focus on boring politics with none of the excitement.

    It was all just made to sell toys basically.
     

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