Why are there hardly any good White American NBA players?

Because when a person is born the genes don't coincide like that.

It's not like the darker your skin is the faster you run. Your height is one thing and the color of your eyes is another.

 

Thanks, I didn't even look into where the image came from. It's from Richard Lynn's Race Differences in Intelligence.

From the Reception section of Lynn's wiki:
The datum that Lynn and Vanhanen used for the lowest IQ estimate, Equatorial Guinea, was taken from a group of children in a home for the developmentally disabled in Spain.[63] Corrections were applied to adjust for differences in IQ cohorts (the "Flynn" effect) on the assumption that the same correction could be applied internationally, without regard to the cultural or economic development level of the country involved. While there appears to be rather little evidence on cohort effect upon IQ across the developing countries, one study in Kenya (Daley, Whaley, Sigman, Espinosa, & Neumann, 2003) shows a substantially larger cohort effect than is reported for developed countries (p.?)[62]

It looks like his data set is questionable as I would imagine, trying to test IQ of folks from such different cultures would be difficult.

 

So, name a "simple adequate point guard" whose Asian but non Chinese that at least played half season in the NBA in the last 30 years?

I get the point that somehow you really think the Chinese government are just a bunch of dumb asses, but the whole Asia? Including countries like Japan and Korea also? That actually exported really good baseball players to the MLB and decent soccer players to Europe and dominating the LPGA now?

So somehow they are really good on those sports and then they just collectively mind f**ked on basketball?

lol

 

Just like how USA is mind ______ on soccer right? And many other popular international team sports like Rugby?

Seems like you have your answer. Baseball is the most popular sport in Japan.

 

Black people have longer arms

 

Kevin Willis is unsure about that.

 

The biggest difference I notice when I play pickup basketball and there's brothers on the court one thing almost always stands out....They have long ass fingers.

Anyways in regards to black people being able to jump higher or are more athletic for basketball I don't think that's always true. The only way you can jump higher is by jumping... a lot... from a young age. You can work calfs, and do squats etc to become more explosive but in order to be able to jump higher, run faster whatever.... you have to work at it and you have a huge advantage the sooner you start.

Of course some people are more genetically gifted than others but it's not as black and white as some people tend to think it is. What was the difference between Steve Francis and Andre Miller? They're both the same color, similar height/weight, played since a young age, same draft, yet you have one with a 40+ inch vert and another with a 30? on a good day? Maybe?

If it was one or the other how would you explain all the explosive light skin guys like Blake, Zach LaVine, Nick Johnson etc? From reading LaVine's Wiki page it said his parents were athletic, but he practiced dunking for hours as a child.

Back to my point about basketball and jumping high since that's been brought up a lot in this thread.

Check out Jon Jones who's 6'4, long, athletic, incredible reach, arguably one of the best Fighters ever. Both of his brothers are stars in the NFL Chandler and Arthur so you know Grade A genes run in the family. Now look at him try to dunk a basketball. Clearly he's never jumped a lot in his life. My point is he would likely pick it up pretty quickly but imagine if he started basketball at a young age and had a passion for that. He'd more than likely be great at it and jump super high but would anyone find it surprising if they heard "oh it's cause he's black." ?

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not sure if this matters to the discussion, but the smartest players I've ever played against since high school are black players.

Sure, I grew up in the corn fields of basketball country, where our city council voted on the next HS coach, and we were designed by Bobby Knight schemes from age 10, yet went against all those rules when the Chicago Public League came down to play us, and our coach had prepared us since pre-season to go full inyo face, fast break as a surprise to get to 120 pts before them....Aquirre (Westinghouse) I'm looking at you.

But there was still no question in my mind, that in Illinois HS or after at Rice and the Houston playgrounds, the smartest players I ever guarded where black players, starting with my teammates.

White players were too predictable and easy to fool and confuse.

Then Ricky Pierce coached me more on that fact in one-on-one at Autrey Court.

 

I'll also say, and Larry Bird will agree, the smartest defenders I ever encountered were black players.

 

Not only you failed on simple logic ( see earlier post which you totally failed to understand the 76ers example),

and you actually failed to recognize simple facts also, currently the US soccer team s ranking around 29 th worldwide and is on par with the class like Mexico and Denmark ect, and we were once ranked inside top 10 not that long ago.

Of course, not to mention there are many decent US players played in the Premier league and other top leagues in Europe the last few decades.

 

This is right. A refinement is that many inherited traits, including height, are a complex combination of genes all over your genome. So for example, height would be affected by your genes on chromosome 1, 2, 3, 4, ...etc instead of just chromosome 8. It's this fact that makes diversity so important. You don't inherit your height trait just from your mom or dad. It's a mixture of your parents' genes all across the genome, which when combined can lead someone to be unexpectedly taller or shorter than their parents. in diverse populations every once in a while you get a perfect combination leading to someone really unusual. But in homogeneous populations everyone is pretty much the same.

A lot of the research questions in this field have to do with how much particular genes have migrated from one region of the world to another, and whether certain genes are common in certain locales because they have been selected for. For example, the gene for lactose tolerance is really common in Caucasians, but not other people around the world. Height, however, is a lot more complicated because it's affected by so many different genes.

 

It's easy for this kind of topic to inflame racial tensions. Here's something positive to think about.

The U.S. is probably the most diverse country in the world now. So if people get along well enough to have kids with other races, the most athletic people in the world might eventually all be from here.

 

Apparently you don't understand genes, how they are passed, and how the selection of mates with certain genes varies from society to society based on what is valued, or practical. I'm also not sure how many black people you actually know apart from those that you see on television.

 

Racism obviously.

 

Your 76ers example made 0 sense. First you said "This is why USA has dominated ever since they started to send NBA players." which means you were talking about international play. I then said USA has a funny way of showing their domination by losing to Greece and Argentina. You then respond with the 76ers, which is a WTF moment for me.

2nd, the 76ers had like 2 white guys on their team. So I'm still confused as to what you were getting at. All those super uber black athletes led the 6ers to a 18 win season I guess. Meanwhile the Bulls and their white players had a better season than the 76ers. So did the Spurs, Suns, Blazers...the 76ers had the LEAST amount of white guys on their team. So I'm not sure what point you are trying to make except if you are saying that your team should have a bit of diversity. But I doubt that is the point you are trying to make.

Okay. China is ranked 14th in basketball and the Philippines 28th. So now you have to go back on everything you've said about Asian's being bad at basketball right?

USA being 30th in soccer is not something be proud of considering the size of the country and resources lol.

So now we are just going by who played? If so then plenty of white guys play in the NBA. Just because none of them are top 10 players doesn't mean they aren't there.

 

Yes, that is why a white guy dunking is surprising. Perceptions are not always right. I'm not sure why you keep hanging onto this idea that "Well, everyone else believes it. That makes it true." That's not how things work. That's not how science works.

Please read these two posts and rethink. These two posters explained it better than I did in my post at the top of the page. It's fine to not know about this stuff, many people don't. I wish more people would learn about it even casually because it would change how they see "Race"

Again, your argument that because you've seen it makes it true is not enough when there is actual research out there and knowledge on the subject.

I swear this is the 3rd or 4th time he's brought up "White Men Can't Jump"

 

Jon Jones is 6'4 with LONG ARMS and he can't dunk? Wow..

 

You surely proved a point, regardless the color of your skin, it really has nothing to do with your IQ.

Its funny that you are going to the direction of thinking how many black or white players in the 76ers but totally ignored the fact that the 76ers suck, and probably the wosrt team in the ladt few years.

So even at that, they still managed to win 18 games.

And thats why as dominate as the US basketball team has been since sending out pros, of course you are using some games to evaluate "OMG, the sky is falling".

Let me put it this way, the "scrubs" that did not made the US team, many of them are max players in the NBA and the building block of their own teams, while most of the other international tram, their key players are the scrubs wont even make those NBA teams.

Of course, I am not surprised at all you failed to see it also.

 

As for using China basketball teams ranking to compare woth the US soccer team's ranking.

I will just give you a tip : stop embarrassing yourself as you obvious clueless about the sports you are talk i ng about.