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Breaking: Lamar Odom in hospital fighting for his life

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by ItsMyFault, Oct 13, 2015.

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    But of course. The blame lies solely on him not on the Kardashians or whoever else. Free will means also responsibillity for ones' own actions.
    That doesn't mean in my opinion, that one shouldn't have compassion though. I hope he makes it.

    My aunt was in a coma for 3 months and she recovered completely and that at age 70. So I still believe he can make it through. Miracles do happen.
     
  2. tinman

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    I'm not trying to be insensitive.

    I'm just pointing out that his taking 10 herbal viagra pills sticks out more than the other stuff. We knew he had a issue with crack etc
     
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    Tinman, idc if you are a 99er or 2015er. You are an ass.
     
  5. dmorey

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    there is way too much PC and sensitivity nowadays
    why should society help those who actively do self-destructive behavior?
    if he does not care about himself, why should we care?
    its personal responsibility
    don't wait for other people or the govt to bail you out
    yeah 1st world problems
    billions of people around the world dont even know where to get the next meal
    and here we are so concerned about an individual who had everything and messed it up
    not a lot of people even have that opportunity to have everything
    for a vast majority of the world's population its poverty from cradle to grave
    no sympathy whatsoever from me
    lamar odom's life is no sob story
    there are billions of people that go through much more difficulties
     
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    Because people who engage in self destructive behavior usually need a friend. On their own, they're in a downward spiral.

    I despise PC and modern over-sensitivity quite a lot. But I think what you're referring to isn't politically fabricated. This is actual compassion.

    There are a billion other people worthy of our compassion, but that's not necessarily relevant. Although I'm sure we agree that it's a shame that we don't freely give our compassion to the faceless millions around us because we don't become attached to them through a box in our living room. Instead we learned a lot about Odom and his story through history's biggest attention whores.

    I'm sure we agree that the Kardashian's careers are a case study in first world idiocracy. Still, it would be a shame if the same thing happened to them.
     
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    I'm pointing out a fact. You are sensitive for no reason
     
  8. Zboy

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    It is sad news but after looking at what was happening behind the scenes, not surprising.

    The man was on a self-destruct mode.
     
  9. ferrari77

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    Sorry I haven't kept up with P in a few years but how is he definitely a "behind the scenes guy with accusing, behind the scene comments on Kobe and the NBA in general"? Does he represent some Lakers players or other NBA players, work with an NBA team(s) or the league or some beat writers?

    Just trying to understand.
     
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    Who knows what will happen but what a way to go!!! No pain (hopefully) and he's probably having drug fueled orgy party lucid dreams right now. There are a million worse ways to leave this world!!!
     
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    http://www.tmz.com/2015/10/16/lamar-odom-prognosis-survival/

     
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    It is called being a good, selfless person. You can be a prick if you want, but when something bad happens to you, or you get an addiction don't ask for any help or empathy.

    What do you mean had everything? Because he was rich he can't have a mental illness or an addiction? He also had a lot of darkness in his life as well. When it comes to addiction or mental illness, how much fortune and fame you have isn't relevant.
     
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    I'm sure someone has addressed this (I haven't read the whole thread), but why take that herbal crap when you can take something like Viagra that a doctor will write a script for without blinking an eye? I don't get it. Why not coke and Viagra, if someone has to have the coke? I hope he pulls through.
     
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    My best guess, and I hate to speculate, would be that they probably had a copious amount of the herbal stuff at the brothel. Of course, that's all hidden now.
     
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    People that say things like this are the reason our treatment of mental health is in the dark ages compared to our physical health care.
     
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    Excellent example of being insensitive. Lamar's situation isn't supposed to be an opportunity to compare the extensiveness of issues among people. Lamar's situation has nothing to do with the "government" or any sort of "bail out."

    Until you've walked in his shoes, regardless of the money he made as a player, you're not in a position to judge the severity of his problems. It's a bit unfair for you to claim that he "actively" engages in self-destructive behavior. Do you know, for certain, that LO purposely made choices with the intention of self-destructing? Have you ever had to find the means to cope with tragedy? Have you always made the healthiest decisions in the weakest of moments? Has your mind always been clear?

    If you're fair, the answer is no.

    I've never been a huge fan of LO, but as a fellow human being who has been through the ringer of tragedy more than my fair share, I can sympathize with him through man's common experience of suffering. It has nothing to do with wealth or opportunity. We all have flaws and moments and, perhaps, years of weakness.

    You're not the person to judge whether or not LO's life is a sob story. You're not the person to compare his pain to "billions of people." The only person who knows the level of pain and despair in LO's life is Lamar and whomever he deems as his maker.

    You could, however, sit back and consider that pain from one person to the next is very different. We've all been there.

    Support and love is a healthy alternative to judgment, especially when you don't know someone or what they're going through. LO, even as a "celebrity," is simply a man at his core. I'm hoping one of our own makes it through this.
     
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    and here we go
    his life is messed up
    dont blame him
    he must have a mental illness
    he can't do anything about it
    he is not responsible for anything
     

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