Why are there hardly any good White American NBA players?

You use stereotypes about violence and character as a pretext to marginalize a whole social group. You even throw in that stupid lie about penis size that was originally basically meant to slander black men as rapists. This isn't serious, insightful or original; it's the same crap bigoted pieces of garbage like you have been spewing for generations.

 

ha. I knew I could find a race war at the end of this thread.

 

This is a terrible example.

Yes most Asian basketball teams suck at international competition, skill maybe one of the issues at this moment but that's for sure not the main reason.

Many European players are being described as very skillful, their shooting motion is close to flawless, heck, remember why do they say it as "the euro steps"?

And also, there are plenty of European teams do have size.

So how come those teams full of white players with good size and pretty good skill level never come close to dominate the US black player teams since we sent out our NBA players?

Generic does matter in sports. Especially in basketball.

 

because Black White Asian means little. It just describes a handful of phenotypes. The color of skin the shape of the eyes. But a person that is "black" can be more different than another black than from a white in his genotype.
For sure there are people who carry genes that make them better at sports. But to think a whole race does? When a race genetically is incredibly diverse?
We are not talking about an isolated population here. We are talking about a "race" that is worldwide.

Maybe you can reach such conclusions when it comes i.e to the Polynesians that were isolated for millenias and carry specific genes that separate them from the rest of the world population because they immigrated to their islands thousands of years ago and stayed there isolated.

 

White (and asian) people have a naturally lower center of gravity than black people. Certain sports reward certain physical traits, and in many cases it's simply physics, running is in physics terms, the art of continually falling forward, so the higher your center of gravity, the faster you can go (see Usain Bolt as the extreme), look at it as a ratio, how much falling forward force one can generate vs how much mass does your body have, changing direction like in soccer is advantageous to white people, but probably the most so is swimming, which is maximized by having as much of your body out of the water (lowest drag), again a ratio, what % of my body can i have out of the water, so the center of gravity being at the torso benefits that.

 

Uhmm yes it's the main reason. Because the chinese federation refuses any outside help in their developmental programs and thus in a country such big you can't find a good guard. Not big man, GUARD. Who has good ball skills and knows to run an offence. And it all has to do with the way they go through their way of choosing young kids they promote through their programs and teaching bball. They choose only based on height instead of talent.

 

If you do not like the so called Black is more superior than white and Asian in terms of generic in sports overall, at least it's a fact that it has a better chance to get a top tier player from the black race than in the other races in certain sports like NBA and NFL.

Look at the top 100 NBA players of the last 20-30 years, how many of them aren't black players?

 

The US has played basketball at a higher level than any other country for far more years. There are youth camps all over the US and plenty of basketball courts all over.

Kids here played at a younger age, got better coaching, and had better competition. And blacks dominate basketball because they've gone through that process far more than whites.

 

Oh really?

So how come the Chinese are so dominated in diving the last 15-20 years which a sport used to be dominated by US and Russia?

Did they just hired all the best western coaches or the Chinese are suddenly become smarter than the rest of the world?

Do you know how much money China invested in soccer development and their local professional league and their soccer team is still a joke?

Please put aside your bias against certain countries and races, and trust science.

We are indeed born differently, in terms of physical limits.

Different races are good or bad on certain things. That's natural.

 

I lack ANY knowledge of the NFL. So i can't comment one way or another.
But about bball...
how many white american kids play bball? Is it as popular in the white neighbourhoods as in the black neighbourhoods? Do you see kids play straight after school bball for hours? Is bball seen as a way out of poverty? Or do white american kids often focus on other sports or are encouraged to follow another carreer paths than sports?

And as I said about black people..it would be at least more scientific in this discussion to talk about tribes. The Dinka tribe in africa was historically one of the tallest people of the world. And this under conditions of malnutrition.
They carry some genes that would give them an advantage in the sport of basketball (=>> Height!). (They have produced only two nba players that I know of Deng and Bol). But most of them becasue of civil war weren't given the opportunity to learn and follow the sport.
Maybe a descentant of the Dinka tribe who lives in the USA in conditions of peace, will have a genetic advantage over other people to be better at basketball because he would be taller.

But not all tribes and populations of Africa share those genes. As someone said before and I repeat once again the people of Africa are incredibly diverse and so do their descentants that live now in the USA. There are the bushmen or pygmies of africa (the one believed as the most ancient human dna of the world). Please tell me how the african american people who come from those tribes are more basketball advantageous than the average person.

 

I am talking about basketball I dont' know so much about football and nothing about diving. In BASKETBALL there are clear as the sky mistakes that the chinese federation is doing. And this is why they suck. And they will continue to suck if they dont' fix them.

 

A sport is very popular in a country or within a certain group of people or race does not mean it will necessary produce a lot of great players.

India is crazy for cricket, and they are pretty dominate in this sport world wide, well, one of the main reasons, to be frankly and honest, is not that many people give a crap about cricket.

However, do you know the second most popular sport in India actually is soccer? With such a huge population playing on the most popular sports in the world, and their soccer team really sucks very bad.

Training, facilities, development all matters, but like I said, they are not the main reasons.

 

Well if a football prodigy from a village in India is born the chance that he even becomes a pro is incredibly minuscule.
If a football prodigy is born in my country the chances that he becomes a pro is huge almost 90%. Since he will be singled out in school from age 6, and enter the farming system straight away of a football academy of a pro team. Even if he's piss poor and his parents dont' have money to buy him equipment.
The indian talent will become a poor farmer that most likely won't even go to school after elementary and the other talent will be a famous footballer and then I will say that greek people are more talented in football than indians?
I don't think so.

 

The Japanese and Korean had been trained by western coaches and learning with those advanced skills much more earlier and often than China, and they both got their asses kicked in the recent Asian FIBA championship.

The final was between China and Philippine, China won. And the main reason Philippine was there just because they were leaded by a former NBA "black" player.

Oh in case you do not know this, when you say the Chinese basketball team sucks at international competitions, in fact they are, the best professional basketball league in Asia is the CBA in China and its not even close comparing to Japan and Korea or Philippine.

 

True - look at India and the olympics. How many medals TOTAL has India EVER won? Bugger all.

But back to basketball. In the US, are there more, less or the same amount of kids black or white playing basketball?
I'm not in or from the US, so this entire discussion is intriguing to me. Based on the number or % of NBA players black or white, I would've thought there are far more African American kids playing.

 

[And I will bet that the Phillipines will be better pretty soon. At least good enough that FIBA will be forced to stop the farce that is the oceanic division and give two or three spots straight to a Oceanic-Asian tournament]

As far as I know, in the Far East people don't see sports the same way as the western countries. The focus is solely on academis and the pressure of the kids in school is immense. One focus in sports only if he's not a good student (or in the case of China if he's singled out from kindergarten based on arbitrary criteria like height of parents instead of talent]. And the free time of kids to play sports also is much much less than in the western world.
That limits the pool of potential basketball players. Because a kid in france will play basketball in school and if shows talent he will see the sport as a viable carreer path, while in Japan he won't even get to play basketball at all and instead go to a study group. The school system is completely different than in the west with much less focus in non academics activities like sports.

That's what I know from reading but I don't have personal knowledge. I also have the impression that in the Phillipines the situation is different when it comes to basketball with a real focus on development in the last years.

 

Sorry - not entirely sure of your point.
I'm saying with soccer, in my opinion there is zero to do with race as to whether one will be better than someone else.
Whilst people are suggesting with basketball, race or color does play a part.
I think you'll find a similar % mix regardless of color or race in soccer.

 

Not exactly, when you are talking about sports, in the Olympic level, many Asia counties actually are more dedicate and invested more than the western counties.

That's how China catch up with the US in gold medals in the recent years and became the second strongest power in Olympic nowadays.

They do know how to select and train athletes. They do know the latest tech and skills. They are doing extremely well in swimming in the last few years, which a sport used to be dominated by western countries. Whether it's the new tech or skills or even "drugs", it means the Chinese are having the same edge on "data" nowadays. If that sport allows Asian to perform at a high level and can be as good as the white and black people, they will go for it.

The Beijing Olympic is one of the most expensive Olympic ever and still for the China government, it's money well spent.

In short, time changed, whether you like the so called communist Chinese government or not, that's a different issue, but they are not living in the dark age and still waiting for AOL modem to get online.

It's not always their fault because they failed in sports.

That could be just natural reasons.

 

Interesting...this actually seems to prove that there is a much stronger relationship to regional/cultural differences for intelligence (if you believe IQ is a valid measurement) than genetic differences. Someone from Canada will likely be very similar to a western european or australian than say a mexican, genetically. Kazakhs would likely be more similar to Asians genetically than western europeans.

 

Not sure what you are talking about since USA lost to Argentina and Greece WITH NBA players. Come close? Argentina EMBARRASSED them.

Their match ups with Spain were very close. They dominated the previous Fiba tourney but the age of straight up dominating is over with.