There were 2 or 3 moments against the Colts where the cameras caught BOB with (what I will call) a Dom Capers look on his face. Capers repeatedly had that facial expression his final season when he lost control of everything.
But that goes back to Major's point that they don't know how to win. If they really thought one of these 2 could be a "winning qb" then the front office/ O'Brien has a problem.
Even worse than that, if you have both QB's on a short leash and are pulling them for each other at the drop of a hat, neither QB is going to play their best. I'm not even sold that BOB is getting the best of what those 2 have to offer with the way he's mismanaged the situation.
I don't really know why you would risk BOB with another draft and free agency period. He can't evaluate talent. That much is clear.
That's the truth.. I have never lost faith in a coach as quick as i did with him and his staff. I even gave Rick Smith more space then I should have... I have never yelled for a coached to be gone. Not Dierker, Rudy, JVG, Capers, Kubiak, Jerry Glanville and I can't even think of his name but he came after Dierker.
Watching his press conference and around the 7min mark OB says something like " well I thought we'd been doing ok with the penalties until last night" ... REALLY ??? Texans are 2nd most penalized team in the entire NFL 40 freakin penalties ... I guess were not dead last so we must be doing ok http://www.houstontexans.com/tv-med...ews-more/d1dd2f63-c013-4265-a8f0-cc39e0fc3218
That's a little misleading because they've played one more game than most of the league, and 2 more games than teams that have had a bye. Before Thursday, where it's more of an apple to apples comparison, they were 10th in fewest penalties (27 through 4 games). And two of the teams ahead of them (TEN, NE) have only played 3 games. So I don't see what's wrong with OB's statement. The Texans were a top 10 team as far as fewest penalties until the Thursday night game. Then they **** the bed. And that's pretty much exactly what he said.
Good point's .. Still I wouldn't say we've been "ok" regarding the penalties and I wouldn't expect that out of a coach whose team has been as bad as the Texans have ...... guess it just seems magnified because our penalties seem to always come at the most inopportune times . Would be interested to know how many drives have been extended by a penalty and the opponent went on to score,seems like it's a couple of times a game.
Mallet and Hoyer are perfect examples of not investing in the QB position - they are trying to solve it "on the cheap", thinking they can win with mediocrity at the position. Until they realize that will never work, they are not going anywhere. Getting a Bortles or Bridgewater or Manziel might not work - in fact, there's a good chance it will fail - but it at least opens the door to success. Having a Mallett or Hoyer gives you no chance at all.
Yup. For some reason this franchise, and many fans as well, have adopted this mindset that it's pointless to address the QB position unless we're getting the next Peyton Manning.
Those guys all signed 4 year deals. Mallett and Hoyer are essentially only signed through this year. And though there are "options" that can bring them back, we can move on with no further financial obligation to either. It'd be harder to move on with those other guys. Cutting Blake Bortles next year would cost you $12M. Any QB we would've taken #1 would've cost even more. You say it opens the door to success. But if you're wrong, it keeps you mired in failure. There's less financial flexibility and it's not easy to move on. That's not to say that Mallett/Hoyer isn't a failure, but the Texans can easily walk away. They're not stuck with either player or their contracts. And I don't think they're trying to "solve it on the cheap". Yeah, they thought they could win with Mallett/Hoyer like they did with Fitzpatrick. And who knows, maybe they could have if the rest of the teams wasn't a dumpster fire too. But I don't think they looked at either player as a "solution". They're place holders, just like Fitz was, until OB's guy comes along in the draft.
OK, so the Texans have financial flexibility while being guaranteed to suck. What's the point of that? Besides, with the new CBA, #1 picks are just not that big financial investments or risks - they are paid a tiny fraction of what you will pay your QB if you ever find a good one. Like I said, you're trying to win on the cheap. It doesn't work - ever. You're so concerned by the downside of failure that your solutions have no upside. They didn't win with Fitzpatrick - they won because they had a terrible schedule and got to win 6 games against some of the worst teams in football. That's a not a recipe for any type of prolonged success. And the rest of the team will always look like a dumpster fire if you don't have a good QB - the line looks worse, the receivers look worse, the running game is worse because people load up on the box, the defense is worse because they are always on the field, etc. How long do you wait for the perfect QB to conveniently fall into your lap? 2 years? 5 years? 10 years? This is exactly the problem with the franchise. Is the argument that there wasn't a single QB available by draft, trade, or free agency over the last two years that BOB thought he could develop into "the guy"? You've already wasted an all-star RB. You're wasting potentially some of the best years of your MVP caliber DE. You draft a guy next year, give him 2 years to develop, and most of whatever you built today will be gone already.
wow this guy went from king status to no status in less than 2 months. Quite an accomplishment. Thing is, it's difficult to see if he can coach when the qb position feels like the early 2000s, when carr was out with an injury and ragone took over. But he brought this all on himself for recycling patriots' plastic qbs.
havent read through all the posts but my take on the whole Bob situation.... - Last years "success" with a stop gap QB gave Obrien credence to not draft a QB & fix other areas on the team thus actually hurting the team in the long run thinking it could work again - I cant blame him for thinking along those lines again this year considering we almost made the playoffs, but I hope this season opens his eyes and we draft a QB in round 1 - If we don't, then we should open this thread back up
The problem is that he didn't fix other areas on the team either. Put a good QB on this team and they might do better, but they still wouldn't be good. While QB is "A" problem, "THE" problem is that the rest of the team has significantly regressed. We're not 1-4 because we didn't draft a QB this year. Please tell me who we could've drafted that would have us doing better? Garrett Grayson? Sean Mannion? Bryce Petty? Brett Hundley?
A pretty good read about the Texans struggles on defense. Nothing really new for most of the people that post here (Wifork is getting old, Cushing is not the same, Mercilus can't beat his guy when Other guys are getting doubled, etc.) but I do like the idea of Covington playing more and playing less 3 man fronts. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer...exans-defense-is-struggling-and-how-to-fix-it
