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[Official] Colts @ Texans

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Castor27, Oct 6, 2015.

  1. DonkeyMagic

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    It makes it especially flabbergastedly when BOB was looking for ANY excuse to put Hoyer back in as a starter. I like BOB but the QB situation has been handled comically bad.
     
  2. Rocket River

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    Its so hilarious to me that
    IN THAT DRAFT they should have got a Defensive line
    and
    IN THE OTHER TWO OPPORTUNITIES THEY SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN QUARTERBACKS!!

    Rocket River
     
  3. Cannonball

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    Time will tell on 2014, but it's pretty much been proven that Mario Williams was the right pick in 2006. He has a really good chance at finishing his career Top 10 in all time sacks. Meanwhile, nobody was ever satisfied with Cutler, Leinart never did anything, and Vince Young only played 6 years before flaming out.
     
  4. rimbaud

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    There were no legit "first pick" quarterbacks coming out with those two picks.
     
  5. Mr. Clutch

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    We could of gotten a QB in the second round instead of blowing our pick on XSF
     
  6. Major

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    That doesn't make it a good pick, though. If you have the #1 pick overall, you're looking for a guy you hope to be a career-long franchise centerpiece type guy. The fact that he did well and the team still didn't think it was worth keeping him after his rookie contract made the whole thing pointless.

    For the #1 overall pick, the Texans got 5 years worth of pretty good DE play, a few of those years in a known rebuilding period. That's OK, but not what you're hoping for.
     
  7. Victorious

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    Well to be fair to Billy, he did say the QB competition was really close. So apparently it was this close they with way hes been flip flopping between them!
     
  8. Cannonball

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    They only got 5 years because they switched to a 3-4 and Mario wasn't a good fit as a 3-4 OLB.

    But it was still a better pick than Vince Young (who was gone after 6 years) or Matt Leinart. You can debate Cutler if you want but Schaub ended up being better for most of his time here. So the idea that we should have taken a QB #1 in 2006 is still stupid. It's not like we would've found our franchise QB. We wouldn't have even found somebody better than what we ended up with (Schaub).
     
  9. Nook

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    You are correct.

    Every time there is criticism of the Texans from their own fans, other Texans fans come up with some version of Houston just being happy to have a franchise or how there is some team somewhere worse.
     
  10. Bobbythegreat

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    I strongly disagree. It's too early to tell about the Clowney pick, but there's not a QB in that class worthy of the overall first pick and Mario was absolutely the right pick in 2006. There's a pretty solid case that the ONLY time the Texans have blown the top pick in the draft is when they went for a QB.
     
  11. Hey Now!

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    I preferred Peppers but Carr was - at the time - an easily defensible pick. He was a monster his senior year at Fresno State.

    But... no one knew football wasn't a priority for Carr, and the team mismanaged him from day 1.

    If players don't work out, it doesn't necessarily mean it was the wrong pick.
     
  12. Bobbythegreat

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    That's fair, the franchise was a MUCH bigger train wreck then than it is today so they could have screwed up Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodgers.

    I think Peppers would have been a more fool-proof pick for a franchise that needed fool-proofing.
     
  13. Mr. Clutch

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    I don't think the franchise was a bigger tranwreck.

    That was an expansion team that won 4 games.

    This is a team that has Watt, DeAndre, Brown and some other pieces and probably won't win many more.

    Carr in his first year was a better QB than Mallet this year.
     
  14. Nook

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    The franchise is the same level of train wreck.

    The man at the top is the same and over the years we have seen fluctuations in a rudderless franchise... sometimes we have a little good luck, sometimes some bad luck, sometimes an uninspiring hire is a little better, sometimes a little worse..... but very little has really changed.
     
  15. HillBoy

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    Nothing can be made foolproof because fools are so ingenious...
     
  16. HillBoy

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    Yeah but wasn't that before they had him throwing over ladders in practice?
     
  17. Mr. Clutch

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    Too be fair, he did improve his first 3 years.

    62 to 69 to 83 QBrating. Then flatlined.
     
  18. Hey Now!

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    He was a popular - and often frequent target for a lot of fans, and they've conveniently let the end define his career but, yeah - he was actually on a pretty standard ascent until 2005.

    I don't know what happened... likely a thousand different things. But he was pretty good in 2004, all things considered.
     
  19. Mr. Clutch

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    It's even worse with Schaub.

    He was legit Pro Bowl caliber for 4 years and people act like he sucked.
     
  20. Rocket River

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    While Mario might have been the right pick at #1 . . . HE WAS NOT THE RIGHT PICK FOR THE TEXANS
    his impact on the team is not great. He doesn't go into the Hall as a Texan
    Hell The Texan part of his career will be a minor footnote.

    The Org was a dumpster fire and QB >> DL in importance to team success
    The Texans Could [and hind sight probably] should have traded the pick
    and got more . . .rather than selling us that CARR COULD DO IT!!!

    Same with Clowney
    They needed alot more than one impact player on the defense

    Their is THE RIGHT #1 pick . . .then their is the RIGHT #1 Pick for your team.

    Did Watt really need Clowney on the other side over a QB to allow him to get some rest during the games?

    Rocket River
     

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