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Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by Chopped, Aug 29, 2011.

  1. A_3PO

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    Florida State will never happen. This has been discussed before. UF will veto it. My guess is Georgia and South Carolina would veto GaTech and Clemson for the same reason.
     
  2. rocketry

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    If he's a smart man, and I think he is, he'll see that he can make the jump from here to the NFL.

    He'll see that not breaking his promises to his 2016 or 2017 recruits will pay dividends in 2018.

    JVG will have words with him then and let him know the value of raising your children in Houston. And he will agree.

    He'll get the call. Then he'll make the jump. And we'll gladly erect a statue later. Because, in 2015, the culture changed at U of H. And we'll be a perennial powerhouse, with strictly H-Town talent.
     
  3. Sydeffect

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    Ranked 24th on AP poll this week, how sweet it is
     
  4. DonnyMost

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    Reposting my Big 12 mumbo jumbo since people are bringing it up again.

     
  5. Snow Villiers

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    It sure is, it sure is.
     
  6. A_3PO

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    Aneurysm.

    The exit fee from the ACC was raised to $50 million in 2012. It ain't worth that to join the Big 12.
     
  7. BleedRocketsRed

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    Was about to post that. Don't see any conference being able to lure an ACC team.
     
  8. Buck Turgidson

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    When you are talking about OU and the OU administration, you are talking about this guy, right?

    http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/sam-mellinger/article28054678.html

    That's from June. Things can always change in the future, and I hope UH continues to get their **** together and makes themselves attractive again.
     
  9. dc rock

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    Houston and Cincinnati
     
  10. Tenchi

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    That article's from Kansas City. Right now I don't trust anything from Kansas City. Go Stros! :)
     
  11. Nook

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    That is entirely an opinion piece without any actual quotes from OU that they do not want UH.

    I am certainly not an expert, just have a few friends that are high up in the UH administration and they were right on Sampson, Briles etc. They all think there is a better than 50/50 chance they end up in BigXII or PAC in the next few years. Supposedly the Big XII isn't terribly happy about the prospect of the PAC having a school in the heart of Texas for recruiting reasons.
     
  12. paulftsk

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    Is there any merit to this? I've heard rumors about UH to the Big 12, but I haven't seen anything about a potential move to the Pac 12.

    Moving to the Big 12 would be a great step forward, despite the conference being volatile year in and year out. A move to the Pac would be amazing, but I just don't see why they would expand.
     
  13. DonnyMost

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    Who? Bob Bowlsby? Sam Mellinger?

    Because otherwise, I don't see anything discouraging from David Boren in that op-ed.

    Boren let it slip that the Big 12 has the ability to expand whenever it wants without hurting the bottom line of the current members, so that canard is out the window.

    It boils down to necessity now. Will it be necessary to expand to keep the conference together, and will it be necessary to expand to give the conference an equitable shot at the CFB playoff.

    We'll find out the answer to both soon enough.
     
  14. DonnyMost

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    Supposedly we've had meetings with the PAC12 and B1G about candidacy.

    The B1G thing was just more of a cursory/exploratory 'hi how r u' type of thing, but the PAC meeting was actually very in depth and they gave us specific guidelines for membership. Every move we have made over the last 5 years has been targeted directly at meeting those guidelines.

    I think the B1G stuff is way overblown and that they're merely doing their homework for the impending conference earthquake that is coming, but the PAC wants into Texas in a serious way. That conference has serious revenue caps with its geographic limitations.
     
  15. paulftsk

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    So UH to the PAC is entirely possible? Also, if we've been working to meet PAC requirements for the past five years, does that mean that we're more likely to join the PAC than the Big 12?

    I just dug up an article that said the PAC were not looking to expand. Do you think that still holds true? http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsport...12-not-looking-to-expand-if-you-were-curious/

    Thanks for all this insight, Donny. I'd rep you more if I could!
     
  16. Nook

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    Yes, there is a real possibility that UH ends up in the PAC. I know that the obvious first choice is to end up in the Big XII, but I know that the PAC has shown a lot of interest in UH and that the Regents have returned the interest.

    Priority number one for UH is to get into a major conference. The decision makers are always clear about that to the high dollar alumni and boosters. Just in the last 3 months I heard yet again they are shooting for a major conference.

    A lot of the discussions or rumors have been about the Big XII but the PAC has a lot of possibilities. For one, the PAC wants to expand and strengthen their recruiting in Texas and the rest of the South. Having a school in Houston helps tremendously, it also long term can help with expanding the conference from being regional.

    FWIW everyone I know that is a big supporter of the football program, including professors and former players, believes that UH would jump to PAC rather than wait out a possible Big XII invite.
     
  17. DonnyMost

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    Absolutely. More than possible; we're the leading candidate. The main problem is not going to be UH meeting their standards (not that it won't be difficult/take time, especially the basketball revival), the hardest part is going to be finding candidate #14. In that vein, you're waiting for SMU, New Mexico, or even Hawaii to make the leap. That could take a while.

    My gut feeling in all of this is that the moment another P5 conference begins snooping around UH, the Big 12 will be forced to issue an invite. Of course that is assuming the Big 12 is smart. At this point, the B12 can't afford to let another P5 into the state, and especially not into a market where it is has already lost presence. But they might pull an AAC/Big East and let someone come up and snap resources right out from under their nose, who knows. The B12 has not shown itself to be a proactive/forward thinking bunch.

    About 99.98% of the time a conference commissioner says something about realignment it is "we're happy with the status quo". And that's with good reason. It makes no sense to telegraph your plans, or set the CFB world ablaze with rumors. It only hurts your cause.

    The next move to be made is with the B1G, as their TV contract expires in about 18 months. Will the conference be pushed to expand by its TV partners? I don't imagine it will happen, but they're certainly doing their homework (most of which is centered around 'what is our plan of attack if the Big 12 collapses'). One of the tidbits that came out of the B1G's recent meetings with ESPN (re: new contract) was ESPN's preference for westward expansion vis-a-vis the Big 12 grabbing UH and/or BYU.

    Simultaneously, If the B1G's contract negotiations come and go with no significant movement, the other possibility for expansion is the Big 12 vs. the CFB playoff. If TCU/BU get shut out again, is the Big 12 spurred to action? If not, does Boren start making hay again? And if so, is a Big 12 network even possible given the situation?

    The wildcard is the PAC. Do they swoop in out of nowhere (a la B1G & Rutgers/Maryland) in an aggressive move to create Central Time Zone inventory for their network and add a top 10 TV market to sell to? That could really happen at any moment, but the PAC has the luxury of time on its side.
     
  18. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    UH fan. They get so torqued up on winning or BCS conference talk. "Tier 1 Program" marketing terminology. Then they wake up from the dream, it's 2017 and Herman has UT in the Cotton Bowl.
     
  19. DonnyMost

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    If Herman is at UT then that means we probably went undefeated or something, so I'll take it.
     
  20. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    I just like razzing y'all. Especially after y'all shoved the Keenum should start forevercampaign down my throat.
     

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