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2015 Smart Phones

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by KingCheetah, Jan 27, 2015.

  1. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Not the keyboard. I wanted the trackpad and accompanying pointer. I also wished they had the hardware mute button. I need that for conference calls when I don't have my headset.
     
  2. mvpcrossxover

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    BlackBerry Classic has the trackpad. When holding down the Q letter, it will change your profile from normal to vibrate or silent. Depending on your preference.
     
  3. OmegaSupreme

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    anyone that wants an oneplus invite has 24 hrs from now to email me through the board. they expire after that time.

    checked out the 3D touch on saturday at the galleria for a good half hour after watching a few vids at home. for apple's ui it's a good addition, but needs to gain more traction. some places where you think it should work, it doesn't... and vice versa. can't see how it can benefit android w/o becoming cluttered and unintuitive as there's already a multitude of ways to get the end result. anyhow, it's a feature that apple has needed for a very long time.
     
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  4. ubigred

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    Sounds about right.
     
  5. Coach AI

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    any examples? I don't see how the cut and paste additions, for one, don't improve. The long press solution is about the same (though actually a little worse) than it was on iOS prior to touch. Pressing in on maps locations, for example, are much quicker and more efficient (and open up extra functionality with the pressure sensitivity) than the regular long press in google maps presently.

    I've used Android for 3 years now. There are plenty of ways the functionality would add to the UI and benefit usability. Not really seeing the 'cluttered and unintuitive' issues there, at least no more than Android's usual clutter.
     
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    (Off topic) Phones peaked in the flip phone form factor generation. Since they've gotten bigger, wider, taller, unpocketable, theyve become less phones and more phone-tablet hybrids.

    Sometimes a pipe wrench just needs to be a pipe wrench.
     
  7. OmegaSupreme

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    didn't mention anywhere in my post about cut and paste not improving. :confused: mentioned that it was a "good addition" and i'll add that it was long overdue. weather, control center, and safari (there was a glaring omission in safari, but for the life of me i can't remember) are a few areas that i noticed 3d touch could have been utilized or utilized better. that's what i meant when i said "gain traction". i'm sure apple will polish it up nicely as they usually do. as i said above, i spent all of thirty minutes with it... long enough to get just a general idea of it. not too much feeling a trip back to the apple store for clarification. is it reasonable to say that it is a completely finished product?

    three years is a little long to use something that's cluttered. i can see your clutter and i see something else i mentioned... "a multitude of ways to get to the end result". it's simply perspective. there's plenty of unintuitive shortcuts, intuitive longcuts (i know that's not a word, but you get the point), unintuitive longcuts, and intuitive shortcuts. that's just android. one thing android is not is a flowchart, but those longcuts and quirks aren't the least bit difficult to understand. it works... just as folks who say "ios just works".

    i simply can't imagine android with long press, now on tap, and 3d touch. that's what i was referring to when i said unintuitive and clutter. i just can't see it with the marshmellow iteration. 3d touch is just too big of a layer to simply throw on to it (but you will see some folks attempt to do this... cough huawei... cough. also, there's just too many oems with their own flavors of android for there so be a strong surge in the 3d touch tech.

    i think it's a little shortsighted to name ubigred and pkmagas as fanboys when they simply call something as they see it. however, i'll admit to being a webos fanboy to this day over any mobile os (seriously, i can talk all day about it). it was themost perfect flowchart. there's a reason that when asked if there was any company that makes good software, steve jobs said palm during their webos days. it's been taken apart and used by most mobile os'. anyhow, back on topic :grin:... there's been a lot of discussion elsewhere from blogs explaining the difference between long press and 3d touch with most not doing job of explaining. there's some overlap in the end result. a venn diagram would be awesome.

    some folks may see android as filled with "usual clutter" and others may see ios as a palm treo with the additions of a better screen, camera, ecosystem and wrapped up in a prettier chassis. perspective. i recommend ios to as many folks as i do android.
     
  8. Coach AI

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    You said you thought android couldn't benefit, what i mentioned are two things that jumped to mind. not disagreeing that the functionality will continue to grow, only the idea that it somehow doesn't apply to android or is something it already had. if you're going to point to the 'multitude of ways' to do things on the platform, seems odd to dismiss a functionality that adds to and increases the efficiency of those 'multitude of ways'. ios has a long press too, by the way, and even if it was more widespread it still wouldn't diminish the increased functionality or efficiency of 3d touch as a whole. it's just a very nice extension and addition to the UI and experience. seeing what devs (and Apple or eventually Android OEMs) do with it going forward is part of the interesting aspect of it.

    and no, 'shortsided' is trying to downplay something with no experience with it just because it's not on your device. 'lol longpress apple marketing' is that kind of nonsense, especially since we're talking about an actual hardware change. fanboy wars are dumb, and the phone warz subset is even worse. especially because these phones all borrow so liberally from each other. some people said the same thing about touchid, until they saw how it improved the user experience and now all the android players are trying to integrate a fingerprint sensor just as good. some apple users tried to downplay a notification center until they had one and saw how the functionality of it could be useful. And as you're aware people would downplay something like webos multitasking card system until it started showing up in other phones. that's what fanboys do unfortunately. i wish people could just discuss the tech (because it'll probably show up on 'your' side eventually) but it is what it is.
     
  9. OmegaSupreme

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    edit: deleted response. yep, "fanboy wars are dumb". i don't believe this was that however. just don't feel like blabbering about something that i have zero interest in when it's obvious we're not going to see eye-to-eye.

    :)

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    nice talk, rokkit.
     
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  10. geeimsobored

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    On a different note, I checked out the lumia 950/950xl at a Microsoft Store. I must admit continuum seems pretty slick. At least on the unit I used, apps in desktop mode ran quite smoothly.

    Really for my purposes, you pretty much had everything you needed for a desktop experience. You had office and a web browser. I really dont do much beyond that on my home computer since I dont really play computer games anymore.

    If Microsoft can get the app situation to be semi-tolerable, I'd consider a flagship level Windows Phone. We'll see how the new tools to encourage porting android/ios apps as well as the new universal app architecture will help.

    I feel like the Windows 10 Mobile architecture is what Windows Phone 8 should have been. But I suppose better late then never.
     
  11. rockbox

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    I actually prefer the windows interface to android and IOS. The only issue now is just apps. I would jump on the windows bandwagon if all my apps were available.
     
  12. LonghornFan

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    Is there a way to remove all of the TouchWiz bloatware off an Android? Just received my S6 Edge + today and would love to delete as much as possible.
     
  13. HeWhoIsLunchbox

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    You can go into the Application Manager in your settings and disable the bloatware. You can probably find a list online of the apps that are safe to disable.
     
  14. Louka

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    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    You can remove a lot of it. I think AT&T makes it tougher and they also throw in their own bloatware. You can also ditch Touchwiz and use a 3rd party launcher. That's what I've been doing to all my Samsung's (dating back to the SG1) until recently.
     
  17. NewRoxFan

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    I recently retired my rooted, custom rom'd S3 and purchased new GS6's for my wife, daughters and myself. While I miss the clean and customized look and feel of my rooted phone, the S6 longer battery life and improved camera and screen makes up for it (and I was able to at least make it look a little like my S3 with Nova Prime, icons and wallpapers.

    There are a bunch of articles on disabling bloat apps. Doesn't completely free up memory and space but at least you feel better getting rid of Samsung and Verizon apps.

    btw, my wife and older daughter went with the Gold Platinum models. I laugh every time I see them.
     
  18. HeWhoIsLunchbox

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    What launcher do you use? I've been using Nova on my phone and tablet for a couple of years.
     
  19. Coach AI

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    no prob OS, same. :)


    And unfortunately both the 950s are only going to be sold by AT&T in the US for whatever reason. Seems MS doesn't have much interest in Windows phone getting much traction here.
     
  20. Mr.Scarface

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    after going to Android for the Galaxy S3, HTC ONE M7, LG G2 & G3........I upgraded to a iPhone 6s Plus 128 GB. The so-called "freedom" you are supposed to have with Android was always ruined by the carriers and phone manufacturers. The hassle of removing bloatware......that you couldn't really remove or it would screw with the Over the AIR updates (freeze and unfreeze is not a solution). You couldn't take the update if you were rooted. Having to re-flash to stock, to get an update was a pain....then reinstall all the apps. Plus, Samsung, LG....etc started doing things to try to stop rooting it became tedious for little benefit. Also, the way Android handles music vs. IOS is laughable...not contest.

    I dont necessarily have to jailbreak to enjoy IOS (I have an iPad and a Mac), but I may when it becomes available. I'm enjoying having the Touch ID and Apple Pay.
     

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