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Oregon Community College Shooting

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by cml750, Oct 1, 2015.

  1. Bobbythegreat

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    The National Guard are not militia in that they aren't civilians. Either way though, all of the talk about militia is irrelevant because the 2nd amendment clearly states that it is a "right of the people" separate from affiliation with any militia.
     
  2. Amiga

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    If you can't even accept a clear definition of militia by US Congress acts and laws... smh.
     
  3. Bobbythegreat

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    I don't accept that a government force is what is referred to as the "militia"....but again, it doesn't matter as I just pointed out to you. Feel free to re-think your life now.
     
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    I don't think you did. Because if you had, you would have seen this blurb at the very top of the page it took you to:

    And you would have realized that the term "gun show loophole" refers to more than just the sale of firearms at actual gun shows.
     
  6. StupidMoniker

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    Military forces around the world do not, by and large, use what has been defined as "assault weapons" in the United States at the state and federal level. Predominantly, the standard infantry weapons are select fire rifles and carbines. Mixed in with those are various other weapons like machine guns, hand grenades, knives, various precision rifles, grenade and rocket launchers, mortars, etc.

    Assault Weapons were defined under the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban as:
    Semi-automatic rifles able to accept detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
    Folding or telescoping stock
    Pistol grip
    Bayonet mount
    Flash suppressor, or threaded barrel designed to accommodate one
    Grenade launcher mount

    Semi-automatic pistols with detachable magazines and two or more of the following:
    Magazine that attaches outside the pistol grip
    Threaded barrel to attach barrel extender, flash suppressor, handgrip, or suppressor
    Barrel shroud safety feature that prevents burns to the operator
    Unloaded weight of 50 oz (1.4 kg) or more
    A semi-automatic version of a fully automatic firearm.

    Semi-automatic shotguns with two or more of the following:
    Folding or telescoping stock
    Pistol grip
    Detachable magazine.

    Most weapons in use by militaries around the world would not fit into any of those categories. There are a few militaries that at one time or another adopted a weapon in one of those categories, but they are pretty rare.
     
  7. Bobbythegreat

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    I'm not sure what you are saying here is accurate. The military absolutely does use "assault weapons"

    This describes both the M4/M16A2 and the AK-47 the two most common weapons used by military forces across the globe.

    This perfectly describes the M1014 currently in use right now along with several other shotguns in use by military forces across the globe.

    They really aren't.
     
  8. StupidMoniker

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    Not as defined in the Federal Assault Weapons Ban.
    No. Those are both select fire weapons, not semi-automatic.
    I believe the M1014 is available with both telescoping and fixed stocks, so it would depend on the version issued. Even then, M1014s are not issued on nearly the scale of M4/M16s (I can't find specific numbers, but I doubt anyone would argue the point), so they are still relatively rare.
     
  9. Bobbythegreat

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    That's splitting hairs, the ONLY difference between civilian AR-15's and the M-4 is that the AR-15 doesn't have the 3 round burst option. That's it. Also, the 3 round burst option isn't something you'd want to use in a "mass shooting" scenario, it's really more for suppressing fire when you want to get a ton of rounds down range and accuracy isn't that important....which is good because accuracy isn't going to happen when firing that way.
     
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    Like the killer could have gone in with a butter knife and killed all those people, the intent was there and intent means death, all you anti gun nerds and go on about killing efficiency and how Obama isn't a Moslam need have your eyes opened to the truth

    Brb gonna get a handgun for uhh protection at Walmart
     
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    And what if she'd been successful? Should a shoplifter be sentenced to death without trial? That's what these wannabe vigilantes do. They circumvent the legal system and kill people, often for non-violent crimes.

    There was the guy here in Houston who shot two men who were allegedly robbing his neighbors house. Not his house, his neighbors. Texas had just passed a stand your ground law and charges were never brought.

    There was a guy in Florida who caught a guy stealing his car radio. He didn't call police. Instead, he grabbed a knife from his apartment, chased the guy for over a block, and stabbed him to death. He never called the cops, hid the knife, and sold off other radios the victim had stolen. He was caught but later acquitted of 2nd degree murder under stand your ground.

    Yes, stealing is wrong, but it shouldn't be a death sentence.
     
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    I'm fine with it. If you are robbing people and they catch you, they should kill you. If the cops catch you, then you can go to jail. The life of a thief isn't one that matters in the least.
     
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    Jesus can feel free to love them if he chooses, but I'm fine with people helping thieves find out if there's an afterlife.
     
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    I agree, it's one thing to fire a gun in self-defense, and if someone is robbing your home with you in it, you can make that claim. If you aren't preventing bodily harm to you or someone else, firing your gun should be a felony - no if's then's or but's

    That woman should be in jail. So should the guy who stabbed a car radio thief. There's a reason we have 911.
     
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