yeah I'm not depending on Dmo's 3point shot anytime. Unless he shows more imrpovement. And he fits better because he rebounds better and runs better in transition. What more you want? Just because DMO has shown in a small months sample that he can shoot adequately while left wide open? That's not enough to equalise how much better he would fit with the second unit when his post up game would be needed. You know..his main offensive weapon.
LOL, more improvement? Take away the first 12 games of last year and he shot 40% on the season....how much better do you want from a PF? Also, DMo's post moves are needed with the starters as well, Howard is awful when he tries to post up and you want to have someone out there capable of scoring in the post. Honestly, when you add DMo with the rest of the starters, that's pretty hard to beat on both sides of the ball. Offensively they have everything and defensively Howard, DMo, and Ariza make things pretty difficult for the other team.
Man you're cherry picking your argument here. Jones is the better rebounder and it's not marginal. Dmo also get himself foul trouble a lot. He did a little better this seaso. But u wouldn't say he's a stellar defender. Neither one are stellar. Jones is good with help defense and Dmo is good at taking charges.
It really is marginal, Jones isn't a good rebounder...better than DMo, sure, but mediocre overall. As to defense, DMo actually is a stellar defender at PF, and Jones is a fairly poor defender. In the event that Jones is accidentally in the right place at the right time, he might get a block, but that's about his only contribution to defense. It's really not close.
Why don't you send the Rockets front office a letter stating your concerns with Jones in the starting lineup . Tell them that Mchale doesn't know what he is doing and you would be the best coach for the job. Make sure you let them know that you will Coach this team to at least 3 championships.
only 1,9 attempts per game on 0.368% with less than one three pointer made per game and only 133 3pointers shot. Not even 200 or 250 to have a better sample. While left completely unguarded at the 3point line. I want much more. Don't see any argument how the bench unit will have Jones a better fit? With No Dwight ? Please tell me your idea for how the bench unit won't be a disaster.
it's 6 to 5.5, Dmo is also a better boxer out, which was a bit wasted with Dorsey and whatever lineup we were toting out with him during that injury phase, but is great alongside Dwight.
I don't need to, they know and probably share my concerns. LOL, so you dismiss a sample of over 100 shots which is right about the entire career sample size by Jones....gotcha. In your world a 71 game sample isn't a relevant sample size....gotcha. As to the bench unit, you'll have Capela and Jones running in transition with Bev and Brewer and maybe some McDaniels or Thornton. That'll be one hell of a run and gun bench and plays perfectly into Jones' strengths. He's almost a perfect fit with the bench unit, and a terrible fit with the starters.
No. I don't dismiss. I am not going to rely on that. I want a better sample. 133 fgas in the first place were too few with how much open he was. That number must go to 200 at least. That would be a bad idea. Why. Because all that bench can't shoot at all , except a mediocre shooter in Bev. Also has horrible playmaking and only one ok ballhandler (bev). I can tell you that that lineup if it's like that will lose big leads.
200! No PF for the Rockets has had 200 3 point attempts in over a decade....don't you think that's a bit extreme? It's not like we'll be putting the bench in all at the same time, starting Jones in a game against a competent PF is a great way to never have a lead.
Draymond Green, Lamarcus Aldridge, Blake Griffin, Serge Ibaka and Kevin Love. I don't know how anyone could prefer Jones to Dmo starting against them, and to win a title, we'd need to beat at least 3 of them in 7 game series.
With the contract situations of Jones and DMo , I often wonder the same thing ..... Then I get to thinking , who can I get in return for Jones that can replace his contributions who's still on that rookie deal or a veteran on a reasonable contract .... and that doesn't cost me another rotation player in the process. I really cant think of anyone .... The guy's I'd replace Jones with either have salaries that would be difficult to match , they would come at too steep a price asset wise or just plain aren't available.
Irrational exuberance Aleron. Posters that prefer Terrence over DMo prefer Terrence because they would rather win an argument than win a championship. Terrence isn't going to grow to be 7 foot. Everybody knows that. And his shooing will only marginally improve without a major overhaul. Anybody that has played and/or coached this game knows that too. Start him because of rebounding? They must mean stay him because Dwight will be in there to rebound and cover his lack of rebounding. Terrence's rebounding was abysmal in last seasons playoffs. His rebounding numbers suck unless he's on court with Dwight and Dwight sucks away 2 opponents leaving him free. That's why they want to start him. To cover up how bad he really is. Until we get to the playoffs and we can't hide him then.
It is not a mater whether TJ or DMo are better players. It is a matter of whom is the better fit. Although the Rockets are very deep, we likely will see an 8-man rotation. The perimeter rotation will be Lawson, Harden and Beverley, Ariza and Brewer will hold down the 3. The final 3 will be some combination of DH, TJ and DMo. TJ cannot adequately play Center so I see the starting post players as TJ and DH with DMo substituting for both. All 8 will get solid minutes.
That was the stats of Jones 1st year starting and Dmo 1st year starting. Jones in his 1st year starting playing a full season was 14 points and 8 rebounds. While Dmo stats were 12-4 as a full time starting. Jones numbers dropped due to injuries.
Dmo wouldn't be able to guard them either. I don't know why y'all are so confident that he would. Those players are special so no one can really guard them anyways.
6.9 for jones, 5.9 for dmo The goal here isn't to sacrifice the team by giving them a veritable fortune of free points because "they can't be guarded". Have you seen how badly Jones guards the pick and roll? Ariza almost blew up at him in that Clippers series leading to Jones being relegated. Jones is better against bad teams (if you wonder why this is, it's because bad teams don't punish weaknesses and give up lots of cheap points, it's why they're bad), Dmo is better against good teams, and no one plays bad teams past the first round.
You guys are getting all bent out of shape before we have even played a SINGLE game this season. I am not Jones #1 fan, imagine Serge Ibaka on this team... (Drools). But give it a rest for two days. You are all getting sweaty and showing your true inner keyboard warriorism about a bloke who hasn't set foot on the court this season. Jones looks to have legitimately stacked on the pounds. I think Harrell will be a pleasant surprise on the boards. At least wait until we have some evidence/game play footage from THIS season before getting all hot under the hood. Some of you guys need to calm down. You are all passionate about this team, which puts you in high esteem in my books. At the end of the day that is all that matters, but man... The amount of salt in this thread from some posters. Smh.
I've seen both players blowing their defensive assignments since we drafted them. Neither player is good at pick and roll defense. Shoots every team have problems defending the pick and roll especially when there is an elite PG running it. How in the world do you come up with, do you have any stats to back that up. I've seen both players having issues against top notch teams and I've seen them have their moments. The 1st year that Jones started he played pretty good against the Spurs, Thunder and a few other elite teams. Last season when he came back from that 1st injury, he played solid against good teams. In the playoffs this year anybody can tell dude was still bothered by that lung injury.
