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Groups more disliked than Muslims

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  1. malakas

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    the majority of scientists and engineers around the world are theists. Since the majority of the world's population believe in some kind of deity.
    Plus your answer had nothing to do with my post, since I talked about the disrespect and fanatism of some atheists I have talked with. They in the end are talking the same way as religious nuts. Ideas doesn't equal fanatism.
     
  2. arno_ed

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    Every group have fanatics and more moderate people. Fanatic people are annoying either way. I know many people who would call themselve atheist which are very fanatic. But I also know enough who are not fanatic at all.
     
  3. Mr. Clutch

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    Would Muslim countries vote an atheist for President?

    I'd be curious to see the results.
     
  4. malakas

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    Agreed. Most i have personally met tho are fanatics when the convo gets to religion. Atheism is a true religion.
     
  5. mateo

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    What do weed or COSMOS have to do with Atheism?
    I'm Catholic and have enjoyed both.
     
  6. arno_ed

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    For some it is. For people like me it is not importent. I do not believe in a god. I do not care if others believe in a god, as long as they do not force their believe on others. Ofcourse I do not know 100% sure if there is a god.

    That being said I dislike the argument that someone is against something (like gay mariage) because their religion dictates that. I cannot respect that. I can respect someones opinion when they have a logical rational argument.

    That will depend on how religious they are. In the Netherlands the religion is never discussed when electing a government. Altough I do not think a muslim party would get the most votes.
     
  7. mclawson

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    Scientists are >10x more likely to NOT believe in a god than the general population (pew poll 2009). Additionally, per a 1998 study, the National Academy of Science belief in God as low as 5.5 percent among biologists and as low as 7.5 percent among physicist and astronomers. There's also an age correlation between scientists and belief - the older they get, the less they believe. Again, that's per the pew poll from 2009. Citations are a good thing.
     
  8. ROXTXIA

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    Right-wing nuttiness? Hell, more than a few fools think we have a Muslim President now, and it was only by the grace of God he didn't successfully invade Texas through his Jade Helm Operation, in which thousands of detainees would have been processed via those just-closed Wal-marts.

    Think I'm making this up? Go Google "Jade Helm".
     
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  9. Air Langhi

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    No they would only vote for a muslim. They seem to be intolerant like that. I don't understand why republicans want to compare us to muslim countries. Hopefully we are nothing like them.

    As far as I know the US has never elected a non christian president.
     
  10. London'sBurning

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    I'm agnostic leaning towards atheist. I don't think any religion on earth has it right if there is in fact a creator of it all. Most if not all religious creation stories somehow tie humans into it all when we're just a teeny tiny fragment of all that encompasses the universe.

    Like take Catholicism for instance. 13.8 billion years is how old the universe is. Out of those billions of years, the earth is only about 4.5 billion years old before it was created when our solar system was formed. Only within the past 300,000 years has a modern human evolved. Within those past 300,000 years, only within roughly the last 10,000 years did the nomadic human realize that it's much easier to cultivate your own crops and farm compared to traveling where the food is. Once human beings began to settle and had less concern with day to day survival, cultural ideologies formed and people began to try and develop explanations to all the complexity that we see in the world around us. One of those explanations is that there is a creator that did all of this and in particular did it all for us. It's not right, but man it just feels good to think there is a creator that did all of this solely for us human beings. Makes ya feel downright special and important.

    As a Catholic I'm supposed to believe it took roughly 13.8 billion years for God to care enough to find human beings on earth some 2,000+ years ago and then proposition a virgin woman not corrupted by original sin by sending a guardian angel to ask if she would bear the fruit of Jesus. Jesus is then born into a life of poverty but follows his quest to do God's will. Some 32 years into Jesus existence did he then get crucified and die for the sins of all humanity past, present and future. 12 of his disciples then took over where he left off. One of them started up the Catholic Church. The same mother of God, still alive after losing Jesus then helps nurture and grow the Catholic church until she too dies, not of bodily infirmary but is instead enveloped in God's divine love, and is ascended up into the clouds where she's now in heaven. Then she's crowned Queen of heaven and earth.

    I dunno man. Seems like a bit of a stretch. Thing is though, you can do the same thing to every religion.

    As an agnostic I'm more interested in finding the right answer. I'd personally love it if there was a creator and we did find him/her/it. But we haven't. We've looked on the largest and tiniest of scales we can peek into. No creator found yet. Maybe someday, but for now, nope. Likewise if we ever found any semblance of a soul. But we haven't cuz it doesn't exist.

    Doesn't make human beings any less special or unique at all not having a creator that did it all for us. We're still pretty interesting in our own right.
     
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    How though? Where do atheists congregate every Sunday? What newsletter bulletins do they sign up for? Does it involve posting some atheist quote from Dawkins on their facebook wall for likes?
     
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    They congregate on reddit.
     
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    You're onto something.
     
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    LOL ... I always thought it was the D&D! ...:grin:
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  15. JuanValdez

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    Why don't these surveys subjects know their own minds better?
     
  16. Amiga

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    Maybe because it's Gallup and not Pew? Asian is expected to be the fastest growing group over the next 50 years.

     
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    I thought it was a little odd that 59% of Democrats would vote for a Socialist. That seems pretty high for any party.
     
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    This logic can be used the other way, also. The size of the universe and humans' role in it is clearly beyond human comprehension. Scientists think they have the answer (and their answer isn't religion), but scientists' knowledge is incredibly limited when viewed in the context of the universe, and it also changes significantly every 50-100 years as new discoveries are made. So to me it seems like a false sense of confidence from them based on their teeny tiny knowledge.
     
  19. JuanValdez

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    I'd say if there is a God, he'd have an answer to all things, now matter how small and relatively insignificant. If he chose to share the relevant information with the impacted parties, that seems pretty reasonable if we're granting that he's omnipotent and all. That we're significant or insignificant to the grand story of God and creation doesn't matter and doesn't indicate much either way on the credibility of the claim.
     
  20. Mr. Clutch

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    Strange times. Trump and Bernie
     

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