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Houston 2015 Offense - General Critique Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Rocket River, Sep 21, 2015.

  1. J Sizzle

    J Sizzle Member

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    We have very little offensive talent.

    Take a bow, Rick Smith!
     
  2. sugrlndkid

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    Perhaps years of neglecting depth and talent need behind the OLine has finally reared its ugly head. Myself included, clamored about the importance of boosting up the defense and its talent. However, the years of very poor draft choices, and drafting by the Texans have finally caught up. There is now very high pressure on Bill to ensure that his draft picks actually pan out and contribute as serviceable starters. This however hasnt been the case so far.
     
  3. Jturbofuel

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    The line is horrible the WR's are average and they have no deep speed, and the QB has accuracy issues and our TE's are pretty much non existant and we have spent pick after pick in the middle rounds on that position.

    There is only so much you can do with the crap they are running out there.

    This has been brewing for a while the front office has spent so many high picks on defense and the offense has been neglected for years and its biting them in the ass now.

    The defense isn't much better our LB and S are ****ing horrible in coverage and we just don't get enough heat on the QB to make up for it.
     
  4. Rocket River

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    That play baffled me

    Underneath pass play on 4th and 5????!?!?!
    Can the received at least GO 5 FRIXKING yards first??

    Rocket River
     
  5. Newlin

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    All teams do that. You see, the defense knows you need 5 yards. So, that's where the defenders are waiting. The receiver can either run to where all the defenders are and then hope the QB can throw a very accurate pass for a first down without a defender making a play. Or, the receiver can run a route underneath the coverage, hopefully catch a pass and then run for the first down. If you don't have a good running back, or a QB that can scramble, then the defense has a pretty good chance of preventing you from making a first down regardless of what play you run.
     
  6. Ericstocracy

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    If we're just talking offense, I'll go with it like this...

    Failure to further invest in interior o-lineman. You knew you had tackles in Adams/Lamm/Possibly another for depth. You knew you only had Sua`Filo/White/Forget the other guy for guard depth. At no point did any of those interior lineman show you a single thing that they could either start or stay healthy.

    With inferior QB play and the extreme reliance on the run game, O-line depth is the most crucial part of the offense, and the FO's failure to address it is mind boggling and utterly incompetent.

    The belief that any of the backup RBs were at least a viable starting RB while Foster is out is astonishing. Now I contributed the lack of success in the pre-season due to o-line shuffling of bad lineman while they're trying to figure out depth. I guess I was wrong. They are this bad. There is no explosion to the line of scrimmage or to a hole created, once contact is made they're brought down. There is no vision in any of them other than a sliver from Grimes. And they can't fight for a single inch of ground. They better be drafting a RB in the top 3 rds next draft, or at least bringing in much better quality vets at the position. This could still be addressed now however.

    Trying to supplement the run game with an abundance of screen passes and trick plays with poor blockers at TE and WR is disastrous and shouldn't even have been considered an option. Even though Worthy has the speed, he'll never cross the line of scrimmage with the block allowed.

    This team is a North/South team. Run forward, Throw Forward. At no point should they ever throw anything behind the line of scrimmage.

    These dropped passes is insane. I don't care if it's a ****ing fast ball coming at you, if it hits you're hands, you wrap it up.

    TE play has been about what it was last year. They seem to not being scheming for any of the TE's to be pass catchers until every last option is ruled out. Not sure why, they need to give the TE's a chance to make plays that the other guys aren't doing. Now with all these TE injuries, probably won't hear any of their names for the rest of the season.

    There really was only a handful of plays I would directly blame Mallet for doing. Maybe 6 or 7 with all those damn passes. ****, 8 drops total. No protection and no run game. He was that good or that bad, he did what he could with the limited talent around him.
     
  7. Joe Fan

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Consistent theme from this week of football...a poor OL = poor results. Teams must invest in their OL or they will be playing w 3rd team QB</p>&mdash; Kevin Mawae (@KevinMawae) <a href="https://twitter.com/KevinMawae/status/646325095045054464">September 22, 2015</a></blockquote>
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  8. Joe Fan

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Drafted Texans OL (Round):

    '15 - 0
    '14 - XSF(2)
    '13 - Brennan Williams(3)
    Quessenberry(6)
    '12 - Brooks(3) Jones(4) Mondek(6)
    '11 -Newton(7)</p>&mdash; Jayson Braddock (@JaysonBraddock) <a href="https://twitter.com/JaysonBraddock/status/646337655169417216">September 22, 2015</a></blockquote>
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  9. SWTsig

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    statistically you should go for it every time beyond your 40 with anything less than 4th and 8.
     
  10. DAROckets

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    That's just sad,even the most casual of fans could see where that was heading.
     
  11. Cannonball

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    '13 is disappointing. Williams probably would've been a good player but came in injured and later needed microfracture surgery. And of course, Q got cancer and is a year away from getting another shot to contribute.
     
  12. Nimo

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    How about better route running or play-calling for the receivers? I see rookie WRs around the league making impact on their teams, yet the Texans' 3rd round pick is not even on the active roster.

    A TE showed up on Sunday! We need more from that position through.
     
  13. Rocket River

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    Are QBs not 'Coachable'

    I mean can someone be COACHED UP

    I thought Aaron Rogers spending those years behind Farve served him well
    Why is that not the norm? Honestly This is why I expected more from Mallet

    What the F*** have you been doing sitting on the bench all these years

    It seems that .. . If you do not START IMMEDIATELY in the NFL
    you destine to be mediocre

    What happened to COACHING!!! COACHING UP QUARTERBACKS and other players
    I know College may not be preparing them as well . .. but Coaches should be COACHING!!!

    I KNOW I KNOW . . . at this level they should not have to teach technique and teach blah blah blah
    WELL YOU DO . .. NOW WHAT?~?~?~!? ?!@?!?!?!

    How many players do we have to run through this town before we start demanding that the coaches take a little time to TEACH them

    The difference between Rookie Kareem Jackson and Wade Kareem Jackson is TEACHING
    I mean it is good if our Vets Mentor and Teach but Maybe we need to demand more TEACHING from the coaches

    Esp at the QB position where their is no good Vet

    Rocket River
     
  14. DonnyMost

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    After 25-26 years old, the "coach up" ship has sailed. At that point, you can only really strategize around a player, not change their talents.
     
  15. Rocket River

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    So we need to invest in a 22~23 year old QB
    Is that QB Savage? He is 25 this year . . . .. If he doesn't make any noise this year or next will it be time to cut him?

    We grabbed Schaub at 26 years old . . .. He seemed to improve before falling off

    I know 26 is not a hard and fast rule but the Texans HAVE to do something
    either go an get a young gun and start the coaching up
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    Find a vet

    Rocket River
     
  16. Mr. Clutch

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    Savage is done for the year...that slows his progress by a year unless watching film of Hoyer/Mallet trainwrecks is beneficial.

    Schaub was always highly regarded. We paid a high price to get him and he lived up to it: 90+ QBrating for 5 straight years before dropping off hard from inuries.

    But yes I agree that a guy in his late 20s is unlikely to have some magical improvement. Hoyer is what he is, and Mallet probably is too, though people think his low number of starts means he can improve a lot with game experience.
     
  17. Rocket River

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    So Now Our hopes and dreams at QB are:
    1. Either Savage comes around
    2. Draft
    3. hope for Mallet to have a great year
    4. Who sitting on someon's bench right now or in the CFL maybe? Arena League?

    Rocket River
     
  18. whag00

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    I'd go with option 2 if the Texans suck bad enough to get one of the top qbs this year or option 4 if the Texans finish 7-9 or better and take a shot with Garoppolo if the price is right.
     
  19. Texanasiafan

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    Did those stats also reflecting with teams which were :

    - sucks at short yardage game.
    - TE is a complete joke for the team either for blocking or able to run a short route to help his QB.
    - WR has no good speed and drop balls often
    - RB always got stuck at the line and the coaches has zero confidence to even run some simple screen plays
    - also an Oline whose sucking pretty bad on both running game and pass protection.
     
  20. Houstunna

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    The offense has never performed well w/o Arian.

    Mallett probably isn't as good as prime Schaub, but the defense is better.. I think.


    Texans can still win 9+ games this year.

    I'd rather fall way short, for draft purposes.
     

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