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Volkswagen diesels cheated emissions

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by chow_yun_fat, Sep 21, 2015.

  1. Xerobull

    Xerobull ...and I'm all out of bubblegum
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    Does the Sarbanes–Oxley Act kick in for punishment of these execs?
     
  2. Xerobull

    Xerobull ...and I'm all out of bubblegum
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    We're probably going to see some of these:

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/9u0EL_u4nvw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
  3. Invisible Fan

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    German officials are covering their asses. At the beginning and end of the day, VW is like Deutsche Bank.

    Proper link for non-subscribers.

    Volkswagen hires BP oil spill lawyers to defend emissions cases
     
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  4. B-Bob

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    REally? In NoCal it's BMW drivers with no close second. Almost run me and my dog down (in crosswalks) on the regular. Always above the law.
     
  5. Sajan

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    <iframe width="635" height="500" src="http://player.theplatform.com/p/2E2eJC/nbcNewsOffsite?guid=nn_sh_VW_emissions_150923" scrolling="no" frameborder="0"></iframe>

    I wonder if it's a good time to go buy one.....for really cheap lol.
     
  6. cheke64

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    A new meaning to German engineering. Those little pieces of **** vehicles are portable mini concentration camps
     
  7. Bandwagoner

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    I wish. Would love a nice TDI to put in my side by side. What sucks about this entire situation is it will kill diesel passenger cars in the USA which were already struggling. Meanwhile big trucks are all allowed to roll as much coal as they want.
     
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    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    After my experience with owning a Jetta in the 2000's, this couldn't happen to a more deserving company.
     
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    Well, I had amazing fun with my mk6 gti. Great car.
     
  10. Xerobull

    Xerobull ...and I'm all out of bubblegum
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    I've had an '07 Jetta Wolfsburg since '09, and I was reflecting on the repair history. I've never had so many repairs on a car. And they were all issues that tons of people had like computer going out, transmission valve body, etc. Now the headliner is falling out because it's stretched too thin, which is something that you can find well documented on this year car. Somehow they avoided class action on this crap.

    While I really enjoy driving it (it's my wife's car), I already had decided to not buy another VW before this mess.
     
  11. geeimsobored

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    Does anyone know how big a hit to fuel economy the Volkswagen diesels will take if the emissions control software is turned on? They keep saying it took a big hit in terms of fuel economy and performance but I cant find any information on how much the decrease in fuel economy is.
     
  12. chow_yun_fat

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    CEO Winterkon resigns. How long was he CEO anyways? Going to have to google that to determine if he was really responsible.
     
  13. Air Langhi

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    2007 basically the cheating started on his watch.
     
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    Since 2007 (roughly the same time the fraud started, btw). But, he was in leadership positions at VW long before that and joined the company in 1993.

    He'd have to be there less than a year to have an excuse. He's responsible in my eyes. I don't think you can design this software and put it into production without multiple layers of review, testing, and so on. Many people in VW would have known about this feature. If he did know, obviously he's culpable. If he didn't know, he's either incompetent at his job personally, or he presided over an organization with grossly inadequate controls and didn't fix them. And, either way, it'd indicate that the company culture has a significant ethics problem -- something else that the CEO is ultimately responsible for. This is like Enron. And, they probably deserve no better than what Enron got.
     
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    But Blue Bell shipped a product that actually killed people with no consequences to the management.
     
  16. Xerobull

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    But that's Texas, ya'll.
     
  17. Cohete Rojo

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    Does VW manufacture any other car brands?
     
  18. Sajan

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    They own a bunch of brands.

    "Volkswagen Group sells passenger cars under the Audi, Bentley, Bugatti, Lamborghini, Porsche, SEAT, Škoda and Volkswagen marques"
     
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    My wife's went to the shop at least 20 different times before hitting 60K miles and had a complete engine failure at 55K miles.
     

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