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Ryan Mallet will start vs Panthers

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Orange, Sep 16, 2015.

  1. Mr. Clutch

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    Worst QB situation in the division that's for sure.
     
  2. oelman44

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    So unlucky. One year we get #1 overall pick nobody worth taking. Peyton Manning gets injured? Sucks for the Colts right?!? No, they go from Manning to ****ing Andrew Luck. It's unfair man.
     
  3. Fulgore

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    colts and Packers super lucky. Manning/favre to Luck/Rodgers. Those bastards.
     
  4. ghettocheeze

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    Reminds me of Peyton Manning's career numbers while under duress against the Patriots where Belichick dials up blitz and runs a guy at his feet. They are ridiculous!

    But back to Mallet, yeah he's not gonna make those throws like Brady, Rodgers, etc... Look at the last play of the game and the throw to Hopkins. It was a second too late and a yard behind. There's no coaching here to fix this. Either Mallett makes the zip pass or not.
     
  5. Cannonball

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    Did you just totally ignore the part where I said you could hope but not expect?

    How many, out of the many QB to have ever been on an NFL roster, have done what Kurt Warner did? You can certainly hope Mallett does something similar, but I don't think there's any way you can expect it. The cases where an older (by NFL standards) QB never gets it far outweigh the few instances where something finally clicked. But that doesn't fit your narrative, does it?

    If you want to use Warner as an example that is can happen, then sure, it can happen. But that doesn't mean it's likely. In fact, it kind of means the opposite. Because of there are so few examples (is there another example besides Warner?), it means that it's very unlikely that it will happen.
     
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  6. oelman44

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    Hate when people think like the person you quoted. Oh, Manning sucked rookie year? So every player that sucked rookie year is going to become a Manning right? Oh Brady was a 6th round pick? So TJ Yates could be the next Brady? Nope.
     
  7. rezdawg

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    Well, we had a chance for Bortles, if we wanted him...but now he's on a team within the division, that has a better QB situation than we currently have. Not that I would have wanted him, but the Texans have had their chances to be in a better situation than they are now. The QB situation has been badly mishandled.
     
  8. Mr. Clutch

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    We have definitely passed up on a lot of young QBs who look pretty good right now.

    Of course they could all be busts. And so could the guy we took instead (XSF).

    I mean we throw around picks like confetti to trade up for Nix and Jaelen Strong. But we won't do it for a QB.

    Would like to be in the war room with Rick and Bob to see wtf is going on.
     
  9. rezdawg

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    Lol exactly...and that's in line with my criticism regarding how the QB position has been handled. Fact is that you cannot win in this league without a QB...so all this building up other aspects of the team is just a big waste of time when you're throwing out journeymen QBs onto the field. That just doesnt work. And it becomes compounded when you are drafting to build up other positions and those players suck or cant make it through one practice.

    If it takes two high picks in a draft to get a QB, you go for it, otherwise, you find yourself in the position the Texans are in. There are those that want to bring up examples like Christian Ponder...well guess what? The Vikings are in a better position now than the Texans are, in regards to QB stability. Same thing goes for the Jaguars and Blaine Gabbert. So even after they struck out with one, they went with another. If it takes drafting 3 QBs with your first 3 picks in a given draft, then do it...and see which one of the three rises to the top. Because, ultimately, even if you drafted other good players at different positions, it means nothing without an above average QB on your roster.
     
  10. Mirri3000

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    Rogers was picked like 20 something..... more like, many teams failed, like they usually do.
     
  11. Mirri3000

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    Well, we did trade 2 2nds for schaub, that was trading up, it was good, we had bad luck with injuries during his heyday. As for the others, i dont see any of them moving the needle, Pats took Garappolo, then took another QB the next draft. Once Tom leaves, they will fall to the wayside. For the Jags, the future doesnt look bright, nor has the past. Throwing top picks for QB's that are not sure things is not really a way to win in the league.

    Tossing away picks for QB's that fall is a bad idea, they fall for a reason.

    Peyton, Tom, Rodgers, Wilson, Eli, Flacco, Big Ben, Drew Brees.

    That's it in the last what, 13 years? Tell me who traded up to get those guys? Wilson was a third rounder, Tom a 6th, Rodgers fell to 24, Big Ben or Joe wasnt a top 10 pick, Eli and Drew forced their ways out of their franchises. No one traded for the draft pick that they took.

    Trading up for Picks for a QB is a bad idea. RG3 reminded? It's either they land where you are, or you get the elite one in the draft that has them. They are not common, and mortgaging your franchise for one is a terrible idea.
     
  12. rezdawg

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    Im not saying to trade up for a QB...but take the one you think has the best chance of success. In the case of 2014...if Bortles isnt your guy, take Clowney. In the 2nd round, take either Carr or Jimmy G.
     
  13. oelman44

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    Yep. I'm still puzzles why we didn't take Carr with our second round pick.
     
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    Would have been my pick as well.
     
  15. Newlin

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    Was that the draft that you gave the Texans a grade of A+?
     
  16. Bobbythegreat

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    Yeah, I liked the picks, but I'd have gone Carr in the 2nd. I had been talking about Carr for more than a year before that draft. I always viewed him as a 2nd rounder and the Texans could have had him, but I think we passed due to his name.
     
  17. sammy

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    Luck looking like crap behind an inconsistent offensive line..
     
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    J.R can you post Andrew Luck's stats from last week?

    Tonight's games as well?

    That way people can see even the great Luck is struggling with accuracy when pressured. I'm just saying
     
  19. rezdawg

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    Every QB sucks when they are pressured…nobody is saying that Mallett needs to kick ass when pressured. He was pressured on 16 of his 58 attempts…and was 0-16. It doesn't get worse than that. It's the 42 other passes that show how far behind he is in being the guy many thought he could be.

    Still not too late for him and Im sure he won't play any worse, but he didn't have a good game…much like Luck didn't have a good game tonight.
     
  20. rezdawg

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    Weren't you just defending the Texans for not taking anyone in the 2014 draft because none of them have shown to be anything special?
     

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