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It looka like a bomb

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Carl Herrera, Sep 15, 2015.

  1. Bandwagoner

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    Pop tart kid and gun noises got national news and only one of your conditions were met. All you have to do is get some official action you can appeal and call the media about it. The added appeal of racism (that the two previously mentioned cases didn't have) would have been even more juicy.
     
  2. DudeWah

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    It's unfortunate there are people who have the type of mindset to make a statement like this.
     
  3. Commodore

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    nah he just ripped the guts out of a commercial clock and tried to pass it off as something he made

    http://blogs.artvoice.com/techvoice...gineering-ahmed-mohameds-clock-and-ourselves/
     
  4. Carl Herrera

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    "National news" isn't exactly much in these cases. You get a few reports that get passed on the internet-- just one more example of "zero tolerance" gone awry. There are a ton of these cases going on. Some get attention, most don't.

    If all that happened was Ahmed had to have a conversation with the principal or even the cops, there is not story-- or maybe there is just one of those stories that invoke mild outrage and then just go away. Maybe Ahmed and his family want to provoke one of those, but what's there to gain? And what if they did? There is a long history of activists planning confrontations to make a point about an unjust authority-- Home Plessy did it, as did Rosa Parks.

    In the end, it is still up to the authorities' to act unjustly and unreasonably to make this an actual thing.
     
  5. KingCheetah

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    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/CEmSwJTqpgY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    Another take on the fraud angle.
     
  6. Carl Herrera

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    So what if the kid took existing circuit out of a clock he bought and put repackaged it? Still doesn't show he intended to scare people. Otherwise, why tell the engineering teacher that he brought a clock?

    This little project isn't an original invention or anything and won't get him into MIT. Did he represent it as something more original than this? What if he did? Makes him, what, a misguided kid interested in electronics who tried to claim more credit than he deserved because he wanted to impress the teacher?
     
  7. durvasa

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    Impressive investigative work, though a bit jumpy to conclusions. It is possible that the old clock was already long disassembled, if tinkering with electronics is his hobby. So him putting the pieces back together a long time later could, to a 14 year old's mind, be "making" a clock. I wouldn't begrudge him that. Also, I didn't get the impression that the boy was trying to pass it off as some awesome piece of technology he had invented. He called it "something small" that he had made in 20 minutes.

    Also, without better information to back it up, I see no reason to give much credence to alternate theories like this was an intentional hoax bomb or his family had concocted some agenda to drum up a sensational media story. My guess is the kid was just trying to impress one of his teachers in a new school, and that's it.
     
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    Yeah, it looks a whole lot like this was an intentional publicity stunt. Someone took apart a clock and made it look suspicious and set an alarm to go off in the middle of class trying to scare people.

    This is pretty transparent.
     
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  9. durvasa

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    He could have just inadvertently pressed the alarm button and didn't realize it. I mean, I've done that many times with my alarm clock.

    Your theory would be more plausible if we had some background on the kid that suggests misbehavior of this sort. There's really no good reason to just assume he's the sort of person who'd do that, so I'm not sure why so many people are coming to this conclusion based on so little.
     
  10. tallanvor

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    his father has the history. that being said, this story is stupid and personally i couldn't care less.
     
  11. Bobbythegreat

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    I mean sure, maybe the kid accidentally pushed the alarm button on his ripped apart and thrown in a box clock that he randomly "put together in 20 minutes" but thought it was so important he had to bring it to school to show a teacher for whatever reason.

    Sure it could be that, but it doesn't sound like the most likely possibility. I think it's much more likely that it was just an intentional publicity stunt probably pushed by his parents.
     
  12. Commodore

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    I don't care that he didn't make the clock. Kids cheating on school projects is as old as time.

    I also don't care that the school overreacted.
     
  13. Bobbythegreat

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    It wasn't a school project, you're supposed to believe that he ripped up a clock and put it in a box then brought it to school to show a teacher for whatever reason despite never talking to the teacher about anything of the sort that I can tell, when it "accidentally" went off in class.
     
  14. malakas

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    Uhm let me think. A 14 y.o trying to impress by making a clock OR a conspiracy theory of faking bombs and trying to lure publicity?
    Very tough choice. :rolleyes:
     
  15. malakas

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    lol you obviously have no experience whatsoever with kids.
     
  16. durvasa

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    Well, I arrived at the opposite conclusion of which is more likely. Its his first month of high school, and I suppose he was trying to share his hobby with a new teacher. It doesn't seem all that strange to me.

    If your theory is right, gotta hand it to the kid. He's a damn good actor.
     
  17. Bobbythegreat

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    First of all, you don't think a kid would take apart a clock to scare some kids into thinking he had a bomb? C'mon, that's absolutely something a kid would do.

    Also, are you going to tell me that "activists" wouldn't use their kid to try and push a narrative or cause media attention?

    The kid's story just doesn't seem very plausible. IMO both of those other possibilities seem much more likely. The kid is 14, not 6.
     
  18. Bobbythegreat

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    If there was a history of him talking about that with his teacher it would be one thing, and if he'd actually made something instead of just taking the shell off of an alarm clock and put it in a box it might be different. It's just too random and weird to make a lot of sense. Also why was the alarm set for the middle of class?

    Again, maybe it's all just a really weird kid and crazy coincidences, but I just don't buy it.
     
  19. Commodore

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    stupid to punish school for being overly cautious with student safety
     
  20. KingCheetah

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    C'mon, this whole thing is so fishy... there is more to this story.
     

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