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It looka like a bomb

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Carl Herrera, Sep 15, 2015.

  1. Ottomaton

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    Here's the guts of the amplifier. I will assume your silence counts as tacit admission of how wrong you are.

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  2. DudeWah

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    It can be to an extent in which it's not a valid discussion point to any rational person. For instance, it can't be ruled out that I'll go to Mars in my life. That's probably not happening though.

    That line of thinking is something I'd expect more from Exiled or the like.

    I actually agree with you that to a normal person in real life (since everyone on the Internet is an expert in everything) the clock can be easily mistaken for a bomb in the post 9/11 world.

    I'm with durvasa on this one. No one should blame the kid's family for taking advantage of every opportunity and bit of attention thrown their way.
     
  3. Bandwagoner

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    What was I wrong about? You said I've never been in EPO, that was wrong. I didn't say anything wrong. You aren't claiming you are good at wire management are you? If you think bringing fake bombs to school is cool you might want to think about how long ago it was when you went to school.
     
  4. Commodore

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    turns out Ahmed just ripped out the guts of an old clock and put it in a case

    http://blogs.artvoice.com/techvoice...gineering-ahmed-mohameds-clock-and-ourselves/

     
  5. Cohete Rojo

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    All I know is that Dallas is up 2-0 against Houston in the Texas Two-Step To Shame series.
     
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    What's that white thing on the bottom right? Could it be mistaken for some explosive by the 99.9 % of people like myself who have never seen an actual bomb?

    When I was 14 years old, the only thing I possessed an endless amount of curiosity about were female genital organs.
     
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    And why, other than your own bias?
     
  8. Invisible Fan

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    Exactly.

    It looks nothing like bomb or a wildly incomplete one missing the dangerous components.

    If you build a bomb, you pretty much build around those components.

    Otherwise, I'd fall on the most common explaination for wires and circuitboard and assume it's a geek DIY science project.
     
  9. Bandwagoner

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    Based on what I know from 80's action movies it is on a folding case, has a large clock readout, wires, and beeps, it is pretty close to a ****ty bomb prop.

    Using an amp chassis for something needing tubes is logical. Using a folding pencil box for an old clock guts makes no sense. You have to open it to see it. The kid must be a r****d.

    If the argument is schools are too sensitive, I say yes they are. Suspending a kid for a pop tart "gun" (that didn't look like a gun) is proof enough. If the question arises how much of this was planned, to me that is completely fair to ask. Everyone wants to be a victim. Victim = hero.
     
  10. malakas

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    People being stupid to understand that a bomb needs explosives -> blame an innocent kid for bringing a "fake bomb". Anything electronic is a fake bomb by that definiton. We live in a crazy paranoid idiotic world.
     
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    Almost 20 pages on this, wow. Mauslim haters gonna hate, he got a shout out from the President, Zuck, and MIT.
     
  12. malakas

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    Just because you lacked the intelectual curiosity and were absorbed in your raging hormones doesn't mean every kid is the same.
     
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    :grin:
     
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    oh wow I made a spelling error writing in one of the four languages I speak. WOW.
     
  15. durvasa

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    I don't quite understand the point you're making. Why is opening the box a problem again? I mean, obviously he didn't put this together to be a finished product. He was just playing with electronics components and needed something to carry it in to show his teacher. What would you propose he used instead?
     
  16. Bandwagoner

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    Have you ever used a clock?

    Plenty of places to buy project chassis or case. I've used junction boxes from hardware stores even. Or how about put the display on the outside and tuck the 70's alarm clock guts on the inside neatly. Then you might have something.
     
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    Again, I don't see your point. Its clear to me he wasn't interested in how people may use the clock, but rather how the digital clock itself is put together. Its not like he was trying to sell it as a product.
     
  18. malakas

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    I'm sure the 14 year old boy with more experience making "fake bomb" clocks will get better and not make these mistakes.
    BTW these things you say would be a perfect example of what a teacher should suggest to him and not "OMG YOU A TERRORIST!" crap.
     
  19. Carl Herrera

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    Regarding this whole "Ahmed Mohammed or his family planned it" theory:

    For this thing to be "planned" as some suggest, whoever planned it would have to predict that the multiple authorities involved would all fail miserably to exercise common sense and just kept escalating the situation like idiots.

    Ahmed or his family would have to 1) know that a teacher at the school would not only become concerned, but also freak out over it even after being told that it is a clock and when she knows the device presents no danger, 2) know that the principal will get law enforcement involved, 3) know that the law enforcement will handcuff Ahmed (Why the hancuff? Was his skinny kid gonna kick the cops' asses if not properly restrained?) and isolate him for hours without access to his parents, 4) know that none of these people would have talked to Ahmed's engineering teacher, who could have cleared the whole thing up.

    If at any point during this whole deal, either the teacher, the principle or the cops acted smart rather than going over the board hostile, this thing wouldn't have received much attention. There might be some initial alarm, but could have been resolved pretty easily and none of us would have heard about it.

    So, either the Irving ISD and Irving PD are such well known idiots that Ahmed and his family could have predicted them going "full r****d" in this situation or it is highly implausible for them to have planned on all this happening.
     
  20. Amiga

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    Come on, what you obviously don't understand is they were from the future and knew exactly how this would play out. How else could you explain that perfect photo of the kid in handcuff.
     

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