Black Lives Matter is an honorable movement and is in no way racist

He gave her the warning - most legal experts say that at that point it was finished and he should have walked away. Please get your criminal law degree before contradicting lawyers who know the law.

Thank you.

 

At least know that many of the nut job tea partiers are right here on Clutch Fans.

 

No, he didn't. This is just yet another example of you not knowing what the hell you are talking about. Go back and watch the video if you have forgotten, he was about to issue her the warning when all the craziness happened. She didn't even know she was getting a warning till she was in handcuffs and he told her "I was trying to give you a warning"

I think a lot of the disagreements in this section spawn from posters like you posting out of complete ignorance. Do you homework, you'll sound more intelligent.

 

Very politely asking her to put out the cigarette, (Would you mind putting out the cigarette, please?) is not an order at all. Telling her to get out of the car is an order, and a lawful one.

People trying to appease a mob is nothing new. He did nothing illegal and nothing abusive, and his boss did not say he did either of those things. His boss took issue with his actions vis-a-vis policy, but that is not what you are claiming. None of her rights were violated. Not one.

 

I don't think it was trying to appease a mob, he violated policy when he didn't tell he exactly why she had to get out of the car initially. He should have said something like "Step out of the vehicle for my safety" or something to that effect, either way though, it was a legal order and her rights were in no way violated. We wouldn't have even heard about this case if anyone in the world cared enough about her to bail her out of jail or if she wasn't crazy enough to hang herself in her cell. There wasn't any wrongdoing at the arrest.

 

Umm, no he wouldn't.

 

No, just demonizing the violence.

 

Heh, well him occasionally knowing what he's talking about couldn't hurt.

 

I don't think everyone in the White Community thinks everything is perfect. It's not every damn thing is about race and it wears down people who want to support the Black Community only to see that community play the race card over and over. I'd say that people who call out the Black Community when obvious false claims of racism are tossed out are doing that community of people more good than blind supporters.

Black Lives Matters should focus on making a difference and demanding change from those who are taking the most black lives and that's other black people.

 

I absolutely think he made a public statement about the cop in order to please the mob. Normally, if the brass thinks the patrol guy made a minor error, they don't have a press conference about it. The guys sergeant might pull him aside and say, "next time give the reason you are asking the woman to step out of the car". That is a strange policy though. I have watched many DUI dash cam videos, and the cop pretty much never explains why he is having the person get out of the car before they get out. They just say, "Step out of the car please." "Walk over here."

I have no problem with BLM demanding change from cops. Insofar as black people are being treated unfairly, that should stop. They just shouldn't a) advocate violence against random police officers, and b) hold up as examples of police misconduct cases where the officer did nothing wrong.

 

Very true, it's a bit of an odd policy, but I think the intent is to de-escalate situations. It almost certainly wouldn't have helped in this case because the officer was dealing with a mentally unstable person and it absolutely isn't required under the law.

 

And in doing so, painting with a brush wide enough to cover everyone in the movement based on the idiotic actions of a minuscule number of people.

 

Painting the entire movement based on the idiotic actions and beliefs of the founders of said movement.

I know, brutally unfair.

 

I saw a whole herd of BLM protesters marching down some street chanting something about "frying bacon" in reference to police officers, a.k.a. pigs.

 

It's unfair to use their words and actions against them. Don't you know their intentions are pure?

 

Exactly as unfair as labeling all police as evil, predatory, and discriminatory. It is truly sad that you can't see the parallels.

 

Its unfair to ignore the very valid concerns of 13% of the country, most of whom feel discriminated against by police officers.

 

The founders and leaders of the police are not racist, evil, predatory, or discriminatory though so there's no parallel.....in fact only a fool would try to draw a parallel between the two.

They can feel however they like, it doesn't make it so.

 

Your inability or unwillingness to consider the opinions expressed by African-Americans say an awful lot about you. You are so busy demonizing that you completely ignore the entire point.

Really? Blacks aren't disproportionately targeted by police and the justice system? They don't get significantly longer sentences for the same crimes as white people?

These are well established facts that underlie the feelings of the vast majority of an entire race of people in this country. While I agree with you that there are some within the BLM movement who overreact when they shouldn't (as in the case of Brown) and there are idiots who call for violence, you need to recognize that there are also legitimate concerns among African-Americans. Refusing to recognize these concerns while tarring all people involved with BLM with the sins of some is doing nothing but making things worse.

All you have to do is get off your high horse and you might be able to understand. Sadly, I'm not certain you have a ladder tall enough to climb down.

 

Being polite about violating the constitution is still a violation. He didn't have the right to ask her to put her cig out. And when she stood up for herself, he escalated the situation.

That is why he is being disciplined. He did not abide by the Supreme Court's direction.

If you read the law, a request from an office is actually an order. A person is expected to comply with a request - so long as that request is part of doing lawful police work. Once that work is finished - in which case it was clear it was - he needs to let go and leave.

Just because someone doesn't like you is not a reason to escalate. A police office doesn't have to be respected by someone. He needs to do his job.

There are plenty of good cops. I am thankful for good cops. Once someone started a fight with me and I retaliated. He called the cops on me because I hit him hard enough that it left a bruise. The cops asked me what happened. I told them what happened. They walked away. When the guy complained, they looked at him and said, "we don't see anything, stop calling us or we will throw you in jail".

So I am not anti-cop. I am anti-abuse of power.