Who said Im just realizing that? It's been an issue from day 1. Newsome definitely picks certain players that he wants. Harbaugh can give his input, but Ozzie has the final say in everything. Carroll also give input, but it's the GM that brings home the bacon there. It's definitely not made up conjecture that Foles was on the market. Not sure what you were paying attention to. And yes, I'd take Foles at that price over Hoyer + XSF + Nix. Im not saying take anybody…but essentially, what you are saying, is that there isn't one QB worth taking in the draft over the last two years, within the first few rounds. You won't know what they can become until you take them and coach them up. At what point do you go for a QB? When you have the #1 pick and Luck is available? lol. If Jimmy G is as good as OB thought he would be, then who gives a **** if we even spend a first rounder on him? We need a QB…doesn't matter if what pick we are giving up if it's the right player.
The rumor was that he was being leveraged to help Philadelphia jump up to snag Marriota. He was eventually dealt for a young, high-ceiling former first overall pick - you can pretend all you want that a late teens pick would have snagged him - but it is pure bull****. I detest fans griping about non-trades. It takes two - and you have no idea whether the Texans were involved or not. They could have very seriously pursued Foles but didn't have what Philadelphia wanted. I think the Texans' lack of a QB is fair game - but we have to be reasonable about it. I think the only two realistic QB scenarios they've passed on were Bridgewater or another year of Fitzpatrick.
Also it's fair to point out that the Texans chose the lesser of 2 QB's to start last week's game. They also chose the lesser of 2 QB's when they picked Hoyer over Fitz. It's pretty clear that BOB has a blind spot when it comes to Hoyer and that's okay to admit.
Never an interest in Bridgewater (Ive said this before) and for good reason, did you see last nights game? And good or bad, there was no way we were bringing another Carr to Houston... IMO
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Brian Hoyer's passer rating under pressure: 11.1. Brian Hoyer's passer rating without pressure: 92.3. More: <a href="http://t.co/JbyJR0kfxd">http://t.co/JbyJR0kfxd</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash">#Texans</a></p>— Tania Ganguli (@taniaganguli) <a href="https://twitter.com/taniaganguli/status/643794319955087360">September 15, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> This tells the story about Brian Hoyer his entire career, hell beyond his career, it tells the story of every time he's every played QB at any level.
*Asterisks and italicized words don't need to be used if you are going to make a long point... just press enter a few times and start a new paragraph. Understand: you then had a point within a point after a colon.
Foles was out of Philly, one way or another. The Mariota rumor was long before the Bradford trade. The Eagles were looking for partners because Chip didn't want Foles on the team...much like he didn't want McCoy or the handful of other players you would think the Eagles would want to keep. This isn't some random thought Im making...it was clear that Foles was on the block. You don't think a 1st and 2nd round pick would have done the trick? How much is too much for the Texans to get a QB that can do something for them? The Texans need a QB before they can ever be considered to be a threat in the NFL. But maybe Mallett is that guy.
I'd like to see what all QB's ratings are under pressure.... actually, the 92.3 rating without pressure is the more disappointing aspect. QB's without pressure should be pretty damn good.... 92 is mediocre.
i think thats such dumb logic. lets say he was a sure fire franchise QB, we are not going to bring him in because a bunch of idiot fans don't like that him because he is David's little brother? i hope our front office is not making decisions like this. thats about as logical as the browns GM drafting Manziel because some homeless guy told him so.
Its clear the Eagles wanted a QB back to replace Foles. So, if the Texans 1st/2nd round picks are enough for them to make an enticing enough deal to TB or Ten, then maybe... but you now have two contingencies that need to be taken into consideration (#1. = Philly takes this deal over the STL one, #2.) TB or Ten. makes a deal with Philly). Philly would not have just taken our picks and selected players there... there was no QB available, and Kelly was not going into this season without either Foles, Mariota, or a younger/high-ceiling guy like Bradford. Yes, the Texans needs a QB... but like HeyNow said, the only alternative options over the last 2 years have been trading up for Bridgewater, taking Carr (who hasn't really shown much of anything to think the Texans missed out big-time), or keeping Fitz.
Pretty sure this regime can think for itself... and you hit the nail on the head, "If he was a sure-fire franchise QB".... He hasn't shown glimmers let alone for-sure substantial flashes. Maybe he's been better than Bortles? Maybe he lasts longer than Locker or Gabbert did? Again, he was just an OK prospect... not sure if he was a once-in-a-lifetime/can't believe we missed out on this guy type player.
I'm sure most of their numbers go down, but an 11 QB rating is completely worthless. Not every QB is completely worthless under pressure. Also, Hoyer brings a lot of that pressure on himself by holding on to the ball too long and not properly reading the defense pre-snap.....which is sad given that he's allegedly such a "consistent" vet. The O line wasn't great yesterday, but it was absolutely good enough to do more than Hoyer could do with it. He's just not a good enough QB....despite the amazing consistency.
Except when he was getting physically bumped by his O-lineman due to the Chiefs push... I believe it happened with Mallett as well on one of his incompletions. The line (specfically the street free agent) was NOT good.
Oh I wasn't trying to say they never screwed up, but there was several times that Hoyer was able to camp out in the pocket and take a nap because of good pass protection too. Basically I'm saying that it wasn't like the O line with David Carr where he's getting hit 2 seconds after the snap every down.....though there were times that happened when he failed to read the blitz properly or when Adams whiffed on a block entirely. Basically I'm just saying that if Hoyer got the ball out quicker, made better pre-snap reads, and was better at throwing the football, I think the O line play would have been sufficient overall.
