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Black Lives Matter is an honorable movement and is in no way racist

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by KingCheetah, Aug 9, 2015.

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  1. Bobbythegreat

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    Kind of a laughable statement

    Laughable statement that is nothing more than baseless speculation.....how many people run 100 yards in order to "engage in self-defense"?

    Clearly Martin was so horrified by Zimmerman, that instead of going inside his house and calling the cops or whatever, he decided to walk or run a football field in order to confront him.


    Or just walk inside his house since he was already there.


    Instead he decided to utter a racial slur and then charge after this person he was so afraid of......also Martin thinking that Zimmerman has "mal-intent" is baseless speculation, something you are clearly a huge fan of.

    No, it's not possible. When you attack someone, it's not "defensive", when you are on top of someone banging their head into the ground it's not "defensive". What he did was "assault" which is illegal and he'd have probably gone to jail for it if he didn't end up dead.


    Are you really suggesting that Martin knew Zimmerman had a gun under his jacket and that's why he traveled 100 yards to "engage in self defense" by attacking him? Knowing it's you, maybe you really are suggesting that. It's pretty funny. Thanks for that.

    Crazy reasons like facts and logic supporting that interpretation. I know the baseless speculation supports Martin, but not everyone weighs that like you do.

    Yes, it's no surprise why you choose to invent reasons to support Martin, pretty much everyone knows you are a racist.

    I do wonder though, if "Zimmerman" went by the ethnic spelling of his first name and his mother's maiden name making him Jorge Mesa, would you still call him "white" and would you still dream up reasons to support Martin?

    Is it 100% because he's called "white" instead of "Hispanic" that it's in your mind that he's some kind of racist?

    Do you think he was racist against his black great grandfather?
     
  2. GlenDice

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    Are cops chanting for dead civilians on the street?
     
  3. Granville

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    Can't wait for his dumbass response to this one.
     
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    Does this mean that you are abandoning the theory that "The question of Martin having a right to attack Zimmerman for following him was not an issue"?
    I guess so.
    I look at the evidence that was presented at the trial by the people trying to convict Zimmerman of murder. They had the burden of proving, beyond a reasonable doubt, that Zimmerman did not shoot Martin in lawful self defense. A jury of his peers unanimously agreed that the people did not meet their burden. Key facts that I saw where: no wounds on Zimmerman's hands/knuckles, lacerations to the back of Zimmerman's head, Zimmerman's nose was broken, injuries to Martin's knuckles consistent with punching someone, blood on the concrete sidewalk, the timing does not support Martin failing to reach his home if that was his intent.
    One side is Hispanic and the other is black. What kind of half measure, beaner loving racist do you take me for? :p Or maybe I just analyze the facts of the case and come to a logical conclusion. There is simply not enough evidence to support the theory that Zimmerman chased down Martin, attacked him, and then killed him in cold blood. There is far more evidence to support Zimmerman's version of events, which is why he was initially not arrested, was later acquitted, and the civil rights case went nowhere.
     
  5. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    He was found not guilty - and I agree with the verdict. I agree with that. That doesn't mean GZ was right ethically in his actions. It does not mean TM acted incorrectly either. It just means there wasn't enough evidence. I just see a lot of people defending GZ as if he was a saint and demonizing TM which in my eyes is ridiculous based on the facts.

    And the events don't align with what GZ said - he was lying clearly at times. But his lying wasn't enough to convict him. The jury knew he was lying and not being truthful. But there wasn't enough evidence.
     
  6. CometsWin

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    No, they're just killing civilians dead on the street.
     
  7. Roc Paint

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    They are also saving civilians on the streets, dumbass.
     
  8. Bobbythegreat

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    He also left out that almost all of those they are killing on the street are those who attack them.
     
  9. Roc Paint

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    You don't say?
     
  10. CometsWin

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    That's their job, dumbass.
     
  11. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    And that's the key word here. Almost. pay attention to that.


    Just as the vast majority of cops are just doing their job to the best of their abilities and shouldn't be judged by a few bad apples, neither should you be condemning an entire movement of blacks because of the behavior of a few.

    Consistency. Try it.
     
  12. Granville

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    And we have shown you that the movement was built on shaky ground and shouldn't exclude other races if you are protesting acts of injustice. Credibility was lost with some of the cases the group hitched its wagon to and those cases are the fuel for the idiots within the group that are out of control.
     
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    Boo hoo Lou 4 2 should thank you for posting dumber stuff than he does.
     
  14. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    movements are messy and the few don't reflex that whole. The quit india movement and the civil rights movement had their bad seeds as well in the early stages. both were marred by violence. It took great leadership to reign that in.

    BLM won't be successful until those elements are controlled. What your media does is sensationalize the few bad cases and prescribe them to the entire group - which is the whole basis of stereotyping and racism they are fighting against.

    All of this is way too much for your pea sized brain to compute though. So good luck in life, you really will need it.
     
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    Fighting over the Treyvon case is pointless!!!

    Facts or no facts, no one is going to change anyone else's opinion.
    The only unequivocal truths are that Treyvon is dead and that Zimmerman was found not guilty!
    YOU can't do anything about either, SO, right or wrong it's time to move along!
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    From the way these guys are talking you would think cops are volunteer freedom fighters.

    They are paid by the people they save, to save them. This is a transaction. You get money, you save people.
     
  17. Roc Paint

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    I don't get paid for what I do for my community. What do you guys do?
     
  18. Granville

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    Did you miss where I said that the movement is built on shaky ground? Fix that **** first or the movement will continue to be an idiot magnet with you being exhibit A. Media sensationalizing events where criminals caused the Police to legally use deadly force is what started BLM. You are so blinded by your racist mindset and fall hook line and sinker for every pity piece the media feeds you.

    I have a great life. Great family, great job, terrific friends and I give back to my community.
     
  19. CometsWin

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    You haven't shown anything. The "movement" is based on about a hundred years of racism against minorities, it's not built on any shaky ground whatsoever. The problem is you see what you want to see and you fill in the rest with your own imagination. The exact same thing you did with your discussions of TM, you basically invented facts that were never in evidence. You never had any credibility on the issue. The credibility of the "movement" is based on decades of empirical evidence that you cannot dispute so you focus on one or two of your favorite cases to try to diminish the movement while ignoring the multitude of other cases. You're simply a racial cherry picker. The faux outrage is so boring. You're boring. *Snooze*
     
  20. Granville

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    Your buddy Boo Hoo Lou brought up TM as where BLM started, so take that up with him. Ferguson which was the prime example of faux outrage spun out of control and a major contributor to the senseless unjustified retaliatory violence is plastered all over the BLM website. You might want to stfu about now.

    Turn the page, quit crying wolf and focus on honest credible collaboration with all races if this movement truly desires to make things better for the black community. Rioting or even just protesting over criminals like Michael Brown are disengenious and demolish credibility.

    Rallying around false flags of injustice do nothing but **** on the honest efforts of people trying to make a difference in the black community.
     

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