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Sources: Brian Hoyer named starting QB

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by J.R., Aug 24, 2015.

  1. Haymitch

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    I was one of the very few Texans fans who was worried about our QB situation this year. Looks like I was right to be concerned.
     
  2. sammy

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    I still think it's better than last year's situation. We will see soon enough. If we're 0-2, you may be right.
     
  3. jakedasnake

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    I love how Mallet was force feeding Hopkins. Good for my fandom and fantasy team. That is all I will mention about fantasy football. Hoyer built his bed buy not force feeding Hopkins although Hoyer and Washington had a pretty good connection which was interesting to see. Hoyer missing a wide open Hopkins in the preseason too was a huge red flag to me.

    He needs to view Hopkins as Josh Gordon as he was constantly looking his way and feeding him. You live and die with your best playmaker. If Hopkins can't make you look good then no one can.

    Mallet was hitting him right out of his break like it should be and hit other players too right out of their break anticipating where they would be which is a good sign. Although coverage may have been soft, he seemed in rhythm and will most likely get rid of the ball quickly since he knows he is not going to make too many plays running the ball unlike Hoyer.
     
  4. Nook

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    Huh?

    No, BOB had to make a QB change prior to beginning this season. The Texans were mediocre to bad last year and the players and fans had no confidence in Fitz. So, in order to sell the players and fans that this is a new year and we can compete, we needed a change. Who was available to play QB? Not much out there. The hope was Hoyer would be functional and limit turnovers and hopefully stretch the field a little more than Fitz. Everyone in the Texans organization brain trust knows that Hoyer isn't the answer, he was never the answer. Mallet isn't either. BOB knows he has to compete, improve where he can and wait until there is a QB that can make a tangible difference. You do that by improving at the other positions and run a high effort, well coached team that can over come mediocre QB play.
     
  5. sammy

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    Hoyer was looking for Nate all day instead of Hopkins.
     
  6. Hey Now!

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    Those 13, combined with the 14, all came in the first half when the Chiefs rolled up 27 points. The Texans showed no signs of being able to stop Kansas City when it mattered, nor did they show any sign of being able to score when it still mattered.

    On Sunday, one team was clearly better than the other team, and the advantage was not limited to QB.
     
  7. Nick

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    And one of these other lesser tier guys probably makes it as well (Eli, Rivers).

    Schaub also probably makes the HOF if he was on those Cowboys teams (perfect case of a stacked team).

    Again, if that is the standard you're looking for, pretty sure history has the ability to repeat itself. They still need to continue to build other aspects of the team in the mean time (plenty of other teams out there also spin their wheels "with" a supposed franchise QB already in the fold).
     
  8. Bobbythegreat

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    I was worried about it after Bill O'Brien made the unthinkable decision to start Hoyer. I had always assumed that he was brought here to be nothing more than veteran insurance, never in consideration to actually start. Once I realized that, and found out more about BOB's ties to Hoyer, I got REALLY worried.....and it seems I had reason to be.

    My only hope is that O'Brien is actually a good head coach and he does the right thing to fix the mistake he made a few weeks ago.
     
  9. sammy

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    You have your mind made up. Hoyer was not the sole reason that we lost but he should get a large part of the blame.
     
  10. Hey Now!

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    Yes; in the first half, helping KC build a 27-6 lead. Everything after that is irrelevant.
     
  11. sammy

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    What? The score would be 13-6 (Thanks fat Randy!) if Hoyer didn't make costly turnovers.
     
  12. Bobbythegreat

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    Well of course not, they started Brian Hoyer. When your QB puts the team in a huge hole that he's not competent enough to help the team crawl out of, you have a serious problem.

    If BOB makes the right call a few weeks ago, Mallett doesn't get the Texans in that hole and IMO they win the game.

    Picking arguably the worst QB in the league as the starting QB is already a strike against Bill O'Brien, if he sticks with him much longer, he'll be igniting the burners under his chair.
     
  13. sammy

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    Ahh I get it. The defense shouldn't get credit for pitching a shutout in the second half because Hoyer was so bad that KC went to conservative mode. LOL.
     
  14. Hey Now!

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    I have my mind made up that I don't think BOB will yank him after one start... that does not mean I agree with the decision. I never would have signed Hoyer. But that wasn't my call.

    I think Major put it best: you're stuck picking the best of two not-great options. Every one needs to stop pretending Ryan Mallett has been railroaded by a moron coach who doesn't know as much as all-knowing Joe Fan. There's a *reason* he picked Hoyer - heck, signed him let alone named him starter - and I have a hard time believing *whatever* it was was invalidated by 45 minutes of the entire team - coaching staff on down - pissing the bed yesterday.
     
  15. ipaman

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    It's clear each should get a half. Oh my... it's gonna be a long season.
     
  16. Bobbythegreat

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    And that's all anyone wants him to do. He started the year by picking the lesser of the two not-great options, we just want him to get it right now that it's obvious he was wrong.

    Is that asking THAT much?
     
  17. Texanasiafan

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    It is not a foregone conclusion that Bob will start Mallet in week 2.

    People need to understand how this front office works.

    By starting Mallet in week 2, basically the GM and the head coach will admit :

    they are terrible on evaluate the QB talents, the Hoyer signing is a disaster and they probably even failed last season to give Mallet a fair chance early.

    By doing so, if Mallet will proceed to have a miracle season and help the Texans get into the playoff (which the odds obviously not that good), then everyone will hug everyone and all things will be forgiven.

    If not, either the Texans will have a mediocre season or a disaster season, heads will be rolling and these decisions will have consequence.

    Giving Hoyer another week will at least has a chance to prove that this office is not a complete failure in their own job and that's important for job security - and that's exactly how this front office had been operated almost the last decade.
     
  18. HillBoy

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    And this is exactly what that article references. Just look at what happened to Bryce Petty. The guy was a phenomenal college QB who put up serious numbers but could not explain some of the most basic concepts a pro QB was supposed to know during his pro interviews. Tampa Bay drafted Jameis Winston no. 1 overall which virtually dictated they start him only to see him flounder in his 1st start because he struggled with executing the requirements of his position and he was supposedly more "pro-ready" than Mariotta. Mariotta appears to be much farther along than Winston because his college system developed by Chip Kelly actually incorporates elements of the pro game so he has a basis for picking up the pro game. Going back a year, I could see that Johnny Manziel was going to have a really tough time because during his predraft session with Jon Gruden, he was unable to describe basic strategies that were used against certain defensive looks. And that's become the norm and not the exception as the college game has deviated from its counterpart in the pros.

    SO if you are the Texans, what do you do about the QB position? How BoB answers that question will ultimately determine whether he succeeds or fails here. Right now, the best that can be said is that he's threading water for now. In this context, I understand what BoB may be doing with Savage - literally teaching him how to play QB on the pro level with the hope that in another year or so, he'll be ready to step up and takeover running the offense. Time will tell.
     
  19. Victorious

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    I think if OB thinks its Mallet going forward, he won't hesitate to bench Hoyer already. He seems to put the team forward, and has no loyalties, unlike Kubiak. I'm sure he genuinely thought Hoyer was best for the team.
     
  20. rezdawg

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    That's a little dramatic.
     

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