it's not like they're growing crops of gatorade in college and the qbs have evolved into morons. I think it was just as tough to find a 'franchise' qb in the early 2000s, mid 90s, 80s, and 70s. I feel that another part of the problem is with the NFL itself. With the stupid rule changes to not allow DBs to play defense, every offensive coordinator tries to run a complex offense to gain that advantage. The rookie qb has to go in there and absorb everything right away. Not enough patience in the organization for them to grow. It used to be that breaking even on tds and ints with a completion %56 was outstanding progression. With all the crazy rules they come up with, The NFL should just make the quarterback have to play as a cb or safety for the entire game.
If anything, the time taken for QB's to be groomed takes less than it did 20yrs ago. The only difference is that today we demand instant gratification. On an unrelated note, the Texans' problem with QB's stems from O'Brien's hesitation in investing a first round pick in one. After all, if you never draft a QB high, you can't get fired when your highly drafted QB doesn't pan out!
Not really... there are more QB "busts" today than there were with previous high draft picks. Partly, more are being taken early... more are being thrown into the fire too quickly (due to your instant gratification), and more are flaming out faster. There's only three QB's who are on a sure-fire track for the HOF since Peyton Manning came into the league (Brady, Rodgers, Brees), with one other player who could be entering the conversation in the next 2-3 years (Luck). And keep in mind, this is an era where accumulating big passing yardage numbers and the rules protecting QB's are more favorable than ever.
Judging by the PI no calls during the Texans game and a few others that I saw yesterday, I think they may be dialing that back a little this season.
I'll be stunned if he makes a change. Teams don't panic and BOB has invested a lot in Brian Hoyer - remember, we're no the only ones he had to sell him on. He potentially loses that locker room with such a quick hook. He has to give him at least one more start (I think).
BoB isn't Kubiak. Mallett should be the starter. Mallett lost the job in camp and pre-season. Hoyer lost the job yesterday with his trash can play.
Camp didn't last roughly 60 minutes. It's becoming more and more obvious, at least to me, that Hoyer didn't win the job so much as Mallett *didn't* win the job. Watch HK or pull BOB quotes on the QBs - there are hints galore (and some fairly explicit statements) that Mallett didn't step up. The language may be coded but it's not terribly difficult to crack; when you name a starting QB based on things like "consistency" - that's a sure sign/finger-point that your other QB didn't demonstrate enough vital skills beyond throwing the football. And oversleeping the day after the announcement underscores Mallett's likely issue. BOB definitely won't dick around; but I think one week - against a *really* good defense - is probably too quick. Coaches don't panic and he's pprobably not going to let 60 minutes invalidate months of work, training and practice.
I knew people would say this. I wanted to make this excuse too. Hoyer has already been exposed. Bottom-line. You don't play the QB that can beat Jacksonville. You play the QB that gives you the best chance to win against good and bad defenses. That clearly is Mallett atm. I don't have a lot of faith in Hoyer playing well against a decent Carolina defense. Make the change and stick with it. That's what I expect BoB to do.
Which is perfect for those that want Mallet. The Panthers D is pretty damn good, let Hoyer stink it up again and bring in Mallet to start the stretch against mediocre/bad defenses and he will look like a star. Even if the Panthers make Hoyer look like crap for 3 quarters, the panthers O is so bad that we can insert Mallet late and as long as he scores 1 TD, we probably win the game.
4-5 QBs in one era being "sure fire HOF" doesn't seem like a small number, especially when you have a whole bunch of other really, really good top-tier QBs out there as well (Rivers, Romo, Ryan, Big Ben, etc) and other sure-fire HOFs that crossed into this era (Favre, Warner, etc).
This is what people are missing, I think. It may not be that BoB picked Hoyer because he's good. It may be that Mallett is that bad.
You're really pushing the limits of "era". Since the rule changes in 2002, there are only 2 QB's who made their debut after that who are HOF bound (for sure). One of them was on the bench for 2 years before playing. The other took 5 years and two teams to get to where he is. This all is stemming back to the argument that teams no longer take time to develop a QB. They're being pushed in, sink/swim. Some have enough talent to survive, many flame out. There's a grab bag of talented guys like Ryan, Stafford, Rivers, Romo, Eli, Dalton, Kap, Flacco, Scahub, Tannehill who all get (or got) paid like franchise QB guys... When they're still in a separate/lesser tier.
We saw glimpses of the deficiencies in just two drives. Accuracy and no touch issues. He's got a tremendous arm... And is probably capable of putting up numbers in a game where you're down big. Can he execute the installed game plan? Can he read the base defense at the line? Can he make in game adjustments? We shall see.
Obrien is a egotistical tool and has lost all my respect. He has a long ways to go before I trust him making common sensable and winming decisions for the texans.
