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Black Lives Matter is an honorable movement and is in no way racist

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by KingCheetah, Aug 9, 2015.

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  1. GlenDice

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    meanwhile in Donald Land

    http://www.theamericanmirror.com/sh...25-of-black-vote-in-general-election-matchup/
     
  2. amaru

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    not a big fan of the democrats, but it will be a cold day in hell before i vote republican.
     
  3. NewRoxFan

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    Because of course, Zimmerman's character is spotless given his past incidents, and his incidents after killing Martin...

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/11/18/list-george-zimmerman-past-run-ins-with-law/

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/12/us/george-zimmerman-timeline/
     
  4. Bobbythegreat

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    If you weren't such a racist you'd realize how much you've been lied to.

    The hoodie had everything to do with GZ assessing Martin as a suspicious character.

    The operator told GZ not to follow Martin. It's clear that is the operator's intent. Only a racist fool like yourself can twist it to mean what you need to mean to excuse GZ.
     
  6. subtomic

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    The difference of course is that one was a grown man acting aggressively and irresponsibly while the other was a kid who acted aggressively and irresponsibly. I don't for a minute believe that Martin instigated the attack (no matter what Zimmerman claims) but he was stupid to take the bait. Unfortunately, he died because of that mistake.

    In a perfect world, neither die and Martin gets to tell his side of the story in front of a grand jury. And maybe both of them learn something about fighting and grow up a bit emotionally.
     
  7. Granville

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    Dumbass..... You have nothing but your paranoid mind that says the hoodie had anything to do with anything. There wasn't a shred of evidence to prove that lie you and others keep spreading. You don't get carte blanche to toss the race card every time logic pecker slaps you. Paranoia is your explanation for everything,

    It's clear that you are stupid. PAY ATTENTION. It was not proven in a court of law that GZ continued to follow and if even if he had that doesn't give Martin the right to assault him. Why didn't Martin go in the house and or call the Police? Because he was driven by racial hatred like you are. The key witness for the prosecution confirmed Martin had contempt for white people via his use of racial slurs.
     
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    LOL yeah, Martin just ran 100 yards then asked him how his day was....

    Both are bad people, one broke the law and lost his life as a result. Then again you've already admitted to being incapable of looking at the situation objectively and it's clear you have your mind made up no matter what the facts are....you'd make a good BLM protester.
     
  9. subtomic

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    No proof of that running 100 yards - NONE.

    I'm not going to call a 17 year old kid (even if he was big enough to kick Zimmerman's ass) a bad person just because he aggressively confronted an equally aggressive stalker (for which there is plenty of proof). As I said before, however, the perfect world version of that event would have allowed both of them to live, not die.

    However, you've already statedthat you'd prefer both of them to die so we all know what kind of person you are. You make a good sociopathic fascist *******.
     
  10. Bobbythegreat

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    We know that he was at his house, then he wound up 100 yards away when he assaulted Zimmerman. We do know that for a fact. We do know that the only person with attack wounds was Zimmerman. We do know that for a fact.
     
  11. Bobbythegreat

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    Also, I skimmed over this the first time, but had Martin not died he'd have been arrested for assault and he'd be telling "his side" in front of a judge before being sentenced.

    The only person that committed a crime was Martin.
     
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    The most interesting part of how dumb and misinformed you are - a court of law doesn't try to prove that GZ followed. The jury isn't deciding whether GZ followed or not. They look at the evidence and make their own decision. They decide guilt. Not following.

    You don't even know how the basics of our legal system works. You need to watch Law & Order or something and learn the basics first.

    So if Martin was dressed in a suit and tie, and carrying a briefcase, and was white you are saying GZ would still call 911? B.S. Just stop it with the B.S. ok? You're such a putz.

    And he did follow him. THere was no proof that martin had contempt for white people. None. You are making stuff up.

    Why does a white guy have the right to defend himself but a black teen can not? Martin was being followed by a weird dude who scared him and was clearly chasing him. He had a right to "STAND HIS GROUND"

    The proof you are a racist is that you give white people the right to defend themselves and commit violence if the feel their life is threatened, but if it is a black guy, they should run away or call the police. You can't have it both ways.

    Why didn't GZ leave Martin alone and let the police handle it?

    You don't ask that question - you blame the victim. Typical uneducated brainwashed racist moron. You come here arguing when you don't even have the facts right.
     
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    So TM told his girlfriend that GZ was a saltine? Maybe he was high as a kite...
     
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    Being followed does not trigger a right of self-defense. If you see someone following you, and you turn around and clock them, you can be arrested. Having your head slammed into concrete does trigger a right of self-defense. The threshold for the use of deadly force is reasonable fear of imminent death or great bodily injury. There was sufficient evidence to believe Zimmerman felt just such a reasonable fear. There was no evidence to suggest Martin felt the same. That is why Zimmerman was acquitted. If the state had proved that Martin was reasonably in fear of imminent death or great bodily injury, then Zimmerman would have no right of self-defense, and he would have been convicted.
     
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    No, that is not why. The question of Martin having a right to attack Zimmerman for following him was not an issue. That's because Martin is dead. Had he lived then that might have been an issue and Martin would be on trial as well for assault.

    Whether or not someone chasing you is grounds to attack someone isn't for you to decide - that would be up to a jury. So again, you are showing like the fool Granville, you don't understand the law.
     
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    Quite the draconian, that Bobbythegreat, is he not.
     
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    Who cares if he was high as a kite - that doesn't mean someone has a reason to kill you. But that's how a racist conservatives think. IF the black person was committing any kind of crime - he was a criminal and therefore the killing is justified. That same logic wouldn't go over well if it was your kid though.
     
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    Of the two of them, one was specifically told not to follow the other by a police dispatcher. It wasn't Martin.
     
  19. GladiatoRowdy

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    Yes, this is the result of the fact that the GOP continues to court racists to vote for them. Why would black people want to vote for elected officials who court racist's votes?
     
  20. Granville

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    My point is that you are claiming as fact that Zimmerman followed him. There was nothing said in court that was factual and would lead a reasonable person to believe their was sufficient evidence to think that Zimmerman continued to follow him.

    It's been said a few times here that you have been lead around by what you see on TV liked the NBC edit. Thanks for confirming it.

    Are you not paying attention? GZ did call the police and was headed back to his car to meet with them when that cracka hating racist Martin attacked him. Martin did not have the right to attack someone for following him. Get that in your head, moron. Yes, cracka, is a derogatory term aimed to demean white people and it was certainly used that way by Martin.

    If you have kids, I would hope you would tell them to go in the house in that situation and to call the Police and not to confront someone because the person could be armed. Instead you are preaching to everyone who will listen that the Police are out to get you and don't trust any of them. Idiot....keep spreading ignorance.

    The victim was the guy who got attacked and that the jury felt was within his legal right to defend himself. You are getting ripped to shreds by several people and continue to put up your crybaby racist drivel only to get it slapped back in your stupid face.
     

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