Black Lives Matter is an honorable movement and is in no way racist

Well the only account we have of how it happened said it happened that way and there was only injuries from a fight on one of them....

We also know that Martin went from his house to confront Zimmerman who was like 30 or 40 feet away.

Basically none of the facts of the case support any theory other than the one that is generally accepted, that Martin attacked Zimmerman and Zimmerman shot him during the fight.

 

And that's the truth - rep.

Everyone here defends GZ - that rotten person and call Martin the POS when all they know he did was stand his ground against a thug who was chasing him against 911 orders.

He is the one who thought Martin was a criminal based on his race and hoodie, and decided to chase him until the kid decided to defend himself against what was understandably a serious treat.

And yet they portray Martin as the racist!!! That's what is crazy. This is proof that white lives matter more than black lives.

 

LOL, you go full potato in here so often, I'm starting to think you aren't actually serious and you are just here having fun pretending to be an idiot. If so, well done, you fooled me.

 

Except that the witness that was on the phone says that she heard What sounded like someone pushing Martin, and the phone drop. There is also the fact that Martin was on the phone at the time, and the cell records back that up.

Most people don't call someone on the phone and talk to them while they go to try and start a fight.

It's entirely possible that Martin did start the fight. But we don't know that for sure.

 

So what?

 

The theory that Zimmerman I guess stood there and waited for Martin then pushed him doesn't make any sense whatsoever though.

Because he was on the phone, we know that he was at his house when he saw the "creepy ass cracker" walking around and he decided to go after him.....100 yards away.

The theory that Zimmerman started the fight just doesn't stand up to logic, especially when it was fairly well known that Martin had a history of starting fights and the fact that there were no attack wounds on Martin except for the gunshots and there were attack wounds on Zimmerman.

While it's true that we can never know with 100% certainty, that doesn't mean we should consider ridiculous possibilities equally valid as those that make more sense given the information available. When you refer to someone using a racial slur, then take off after them 100 yards away....what are we supposed to think?

 

blacks wont be motivated to vote this upcoming election, and the blacks that do vote like me will vote conservative especially if carson is involved, i like trump's idea on immigration but i wanna more before i decide, jeb bush is a no go.. and no to bernie or hillary

 

That's the problem is that there are holes with it both ways. The idea that Martin would be on the phone and go to start a fight doesn't make sense either. The fight wounds on Zimmerman only shows that he lost the fight, and doesn't really show who started it.

I don't know who started it. I just have an issue when people say either way that we know who started the fight.

 

Well he's drawing a mixed crowd in S. Carolina, and being introduced by Cornell West.

I like Sanders a lot, and like him even more the more he teams up with Cornell West.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...9b4236-58c2-11e5-b8c9-944725fcd3b9_story.html

 

Fair enough. I still don't think there's any significance whatsoever to the 3x ratio you keep citing.

The other things you're implying have validity but I'm not sure to what extent.

 

Just because you are on the phone that doesn't mean you can't get mad and decide to go attack someone....especially since doing just that would be in Martin's character given his past incidents.

The account of the events that was told by Zimmerman is fully plausible and IMO likely to be close to the truth.

Now if all of this took place outside of Martin's house, and he hadn't left his house and gone the distance of a football field to confront Zimmerman, things might be different. If we reverse things and make Martin hispanic and Zimmerman black, then have Martin use a black racial slur before going after Zimmerman, I don't think we'd be seeing these crusaders trying to find any way that Zimmerman was the attacking party.

 

You guys should necro the Zimmerman thread if you wanna argue the same points again.

Let's stay on topic for this thread.

 

Well it is related, the Martin case gave birth to the BLM nonsense.

 

The black vote is the most consistently partisan of any racial voting block. The black people who vote will overwhelmingly vote for the Democratic candidate, at something around a 90% rate. You can book that now without even knowing who the candidates will be.

 

No kidding, because it's the Republican party that is full of people who see blacks as subhuman and have a racial agenda. You see it here.

Look at how everyone defends GZ and glosses over his mistakes, but justify the killing of TM because he MIGHT have used the word cracker. GZ gets the benefit of the doubt, but TM is seen suspiciously. That alone shows a racial bias.

Let's look at the Republican platform:

Anti-welfare - affects blacks more
Anti-obamacare - hurts minorities more
anti-immigration - never see them protest against illegal Europeans
Anti-food stamps - hurts blacks more
Anti-affirmative action - hurts blacks more
Pro-tough crime which gets unfairly applied to blacks more in terms of sentencing terms
Anti-education - hurts blacks more
Anti-minimum wage - hurts blacks more.

See a pattern?

See case in point. Blames the victim for the crime. GZ was ok to chase a hoodie black teen? Why was that ok? The operator told him not too. But he still did it. Notice how Bobbythegreat doesn't admit to a single mistake that GZ did, but when TM defends himself, he gets blames. I the races were reversed, GZ would get the defense still and TM would be criticized for scaring GZ giving GZ no choice but to shoot him.

See how it works, that's called racism.

 

I wasn't making a value judgment, I was making an assertion counter to Harden2Capela. Even if the Republican party puts up Ben Carson, do you disagree that the black vote will be split 90/10 in favor of the Democrat's candidate, regardless of the reason?

 

The Republicans could put up the combined reincarnation of Lincoln, MLK, and Gandhi and the black vote would be split somewhere between 80/20 and 90/10 against him even if he was running against the combined reincarnation of Hitler, Stalin, and Saddam Hussein. They vote for/against parties, the actual people running means little to nothing among that group. It's been that way for a REALLY long time.

 

It has everything to do with the reason. The reason is clear, blacks think the Republican party is racist against them and doesn't represent their interests. And frankly the actions and words of the party reinforce that.

Just because Ben Carson is black doesn't mean they are dumb enough to vote for a guy who would take actions that would result in hardship for blacks. They aren't stupid.

 

GZ never "chased" anyone that night
The hoodie had zero to do with anything other than GZ desribing when asked what Martin was wearing
The operator told GZ that it wasn't necessary to continue following Martin. It was never proven in court that GZ as advised not to continue to follow Martin did so.

You are incredibly blinded by your racist views. If Martin had used his cellphone to call the police to report GZ as a suspicious person he'd be alive today but he chose to take a ride on the pity train you seem to be the conductor of.