1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Iran nuclear talks: 'Historic' agreement struck

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Ubiquitin, Jul 14, 2015.

  1. Sweet Lou 4 2

    Sweet Lou 4 2 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2007
    Messages:
    39,181
    Likes Received:
    20,334
    Commodore can't think for himself - he lets twitter do his thinking.
     
  2. JuanValdez

    JuanValdez Member

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 1999
    Messages:
    35,052
    Likes Received:
    15,227
    I think this is right. The Republicans knew they weren't going to win on this issue -- and as I've said here before, I don't believe they wanted to win either -- but they wanted to be able to have a vote so they can put Democratic congressmen on record so they could dredge it up for the coming elections. Much like the recurring but fruitless votes to repeal Obamacare, the opposition at this point is for the campaign trail, not for foreign policy.
     
  3. GlenDice

    GlenDice Member

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2015
    Messages:
    526
    Likes Received:
    11
    This deal will make a country that oppresses its people stronger and richer, while lifting sanctions off of a man responsible of killing American soilders. I guess those " paranoid old white people" were right when they said obama hates America.
     
  4. Amiga

    Amiga Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2008
    Messages:
    25,040
    Likes Received:
    23,297
    You prefer a weaker and poorer Iran with an unchecked path toward a nuclear bomb?
     
  5. Dubious

    Dubious Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2001
    Messages:
    18,318
    Likes Received:
    5,090
    Nukular bombs and especially the missul systems needed to use them, for suicide, are expensive. They don't make money.

    I don't know how the price of oil in Iran is actually effected, they may have been selling at $50, but oil is not going to make them rich, richer than Texas anyway.

    When the mullahs die these kids won't even look up from their phones, wait 'em out. The real war coming in the next decade will be chaos vs. order and you are going to want Iran on the side of order.
     
    #465 Dubious, Sep 11, 2015
    Last edited: Sep 11, 2015
  6. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

    Joined:
    May 15, 2000
    Messages:
    28,028
    Likes Received:
    13,051
    The leaders of the UK, France, and Germany also hate their own countries. Bahaha.

    Your posts would improve dramatically if you exercised even a modicum of critical thinking before posting.
     
  7. Sweet Lou 4 2

    Sweet Lou 4 2 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 16, 2007
    Messages:
    39,181
    Likes Received:
    20,334
    Sanctions were going away regardless and they would get their money back regardless. Russia and china said enough of sanctions. Amazing they went along for as long as they did.

    You want to play politics and give Iran the middle finger. Well guess what you are also giving them the permission to get the bomb and do everything else anyway. But you don't think in a practical world and that's why we can't have a nutjob as a president because they will do more harm in these situation.

    Iran was a year away from a bomb. Now they are 15 years away. Much better than 1 year which is what the right wing way would have yielded along with another war.
     
  8. GlenDice

    GlenDice Member

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2015
    Messages:
    526
    Likes Received:
    11
    79 percent of Americans oppose this deal.
     
  9. Baba Booey

    Baba Booey Member

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2012
    Messages:
    2,584
    Likes Received:
    961
    Riiiight. That hasn't been manipulated at all.

    Stick to be a racist, Glen. You're better at it.
     
  10. Amiga

    Amiga Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2008
    Messages:
    25,040
    Likes Received:
    23,297
    American is more than just Republicans
     
  11. Anticope

    Anticope Member

    Joined:
    Jun 11, 2001
    Messages:
    2,020
    Likes Received:
    1,217
    I'd love to see a link for this.
     
  12. GlenDice

    GlenDice Member

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2015
    Messages:
    526
    Likes Received:
    11
    Last time I was in Iran was in 2009, I saw unarmed people getting shot dead by regime thugs and then came the brutal crackdown, why because they dared to speak freely about the unjust election. That year my entire perspective in life changed. I wanted to see nothing more then the down fall of IRI and do whatever it takes to protect the 1st and 2nd amendment here in the US.

    This deal will make the regime stronger then ever. I'm sure their can be a better deal, start off by releasing the American hostages in iran.
     
  13. mc mark

    mc mark Member

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 1999
    Messages:
    26,195
    Likes Received:
    471
    79% of Americans couldn't find Iran on a map
     
  14. Commodore

    Commodore Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2007
    Messages:
    33,546
    Likes Received:
    17,509
    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>If any war happens...<a href="https://t.co/YerjNPYdzc" title="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjmDV8kagV8&amp;feature=youtu.be" org_href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjmDV8kagV8&amp;feature=youtu.be">youtu.be/QjmDV8kagV8</a></p>&mdash; Khamenei.ir (@khamenei_ir) <a href="https://twitter.com/khamenei_ir/status/643030560923877376" data-datetime="2015-09-13T06:56:47+00:00">September 13, 2015</a></blockquote>
    <script src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
     
  15. Commodore

    Commodore Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2007
    Messages:
    33,546
    Likes Received:
    17,509
    One thing people don't understand is that Obama wants to set up Iran as a/the regional super power in the Middle East.

    All of our enemies; Russia, Iran, Syria, China, Venezuela, Cuba, North Korea, are as strong or stronger today than they were when Obama took office.

    The weakness Russia/Iran/Venezuela have is that they are petro-states. Getting the price of oil down cripples them. It should be the number one national security priority of any president.

    Instead we get Obama doing reality shows in Alaska and whining about climate change (without modifying his own carbon footprint, of course, that's for the little people).
     
  16. robbie380

    robbie380 ლ(▀̿Ĺ̯▀̿ ̿ლ)
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2002
    Messages:
    23,961
    Likes Received:
    11,101
    Why isn't this post in the form of a tweet? ;)
     
  17. Amiga

    Amiga Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2008
    Messages:
    25,040
    Likes Received:
    23,297
    ^^^ glad to hear you are against any war in that region and you are for the Iran deal.
     
  18. Commodore

    Commodore Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2007
    Messages:
    33,546
    Likes Received:
    17,509
    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/s...percent/article/2571614#.VfBoCQ2IT_g.facebook

    The Dems are incredibly disciplined. Obama can get them to vote for unpopular measures like ACA and this Iran deal. He can wipe his party out electorally, be underwater in approval ratings, and the few that remain stay loyal.
     
  19. GlenDice

    GlenDice Member

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2015
    Messages:
    526
    Likes Received:
    11
    IRI just posted this

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/QjmDV8kagV8" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
  20. g1184

    g1184 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2003
    Messages:
    1,798
    Likes Received:
    86
    The link you posted doesn't support this claim.
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now