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The Presidents of Harvard, MIT, Penn, Columbia, Cornell, Penn should be forced to resign

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by AroundTheWorld, Dec 5, 2023.

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    Let them sit there but make sure they will never have access to bathrooms

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    Prospective from an actual student in NYC:

    "Say what you will about PrezBo, but he would've never called in the NYPD. He'd wait it out; the semester was over anyway. Institutional memory is incredibly short and no one understood this better than him.

    In 2007, students had a whole encampment and hunger strike on South Lawn in front of Butler to protest for curriculum reform and to stop the Manhattanville expansion. Bollinger's admin threw them a few bones and the whole thing fizzled out by finals. Manhattanville expansion is now complete. Or in 2014-2015, during Mattress Performance which drew tons of media attention, Emma walked on graduation stage with her mattress. Instead of involving Public Safety and escalating, Bollinger just... ignored her. Next semester, all the media attention died and Title IX activists moved on to other (Trump-era, BLM-era) political causes.

    Minouche Shafik (PrezShaf? PrezBaroness?) calling in the NYPD gifted a golden opportunity to the protestors. It's a prime photo-op. Nothing evokes Vietnam War and Civil Rights like getting carted off by officers in uniform. The optics alone gave them a kind of legitimacy, a martyrdom that they never had to begin with. That's why it quickly spread overnight to Yale, MIT, UMich, Tufts, et al. And it seems to have given the faculty an opportunity to air their long-standing grievance with the administration. She's in way over her head."
     
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    Protests have been happening since October. They started garnering national attention quickly due to admin's response to suspend student groups who organized the protests. Major news outlets started reporting on this, and ACLU eventually filed a lawsuit against Columbia in March.

    Meanwhile in Washington, there has been an unprecedented effort going on to address "antisemitism on college campuses" since October. President Shafik was asked to testify in December but she declined. The House Education and the Workforce Committee launched an investigation into Columbia, citing "grave concerns regarding the inadequacy of Columbia’s response to antisemitism on its campus."

    Things took a drastic turn at Columbia last week after President Shafik testified at the congress on Wednesday. Earlier that morning, student protesters had set up tents on South Lawn, but Shafik authorized NYPD to enter the Morningside campus and arrest over 100 students the very next day. It was 34 hours after the encampment was set up.

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    Student feedback on former IDF and current (or former?) professor Shai Davidai

    "I momentarily went to the lawn to speak to my friends camping (I am not a part of the protest). Shai Davidai was standing on the side wearing all black and staring at us. Right at us for like minutes, unblinking. And then he started recording us eating food. It's so creepy and weird and I'm probably in his video even though I'm not even a part of this protest. He is so weird! I've seen his videos and photos on twitter against the camp and students literally just sitting or praying. He seems spiteful. I'm not a Muslim or Palestenian but why is that specific rhetoric and harassment from a teacher allowed against students."

    "He wants to document everyone involved because to him any one who believes there is a genocide going on is an anti-semite, and he is the folk hero who is saving campus Jews from these violent, depraved anti-semites. There is also an administration determined to protect Zionist speech, and criminalize anti-Zionist speech, so he feels protected and safe doing this, despite this kind of behavior by a faculty member in any other contest would be swiftly punished. If there were white faculty members dressed in all black, leering at and filming any one supporting the Floyd protests, it would be big news, but this isn't because... well... President Shafik isn't pro-Zionist enough... according to congress? Hmmmm...."

    "Hmmm, didn't they get violent when students were sprayed with a noxious chemical by former IDF soldiers that landed several in the hospital? Or was it when they were forcefully manhandled by police for staging a sit-in -- a form of protest that has a rich history in this country with regards to civil rights struggles? I don't support any form of violence against protestors, but let's not pretend like you care about violence, as long as it's violence directed toward those who you disagree with."

    "That's an Israeli student holding the sign. She was confronted by the people at the camp to stop posing as the protesters wrongfully. However, this should not give Shai Davidai the green card to label ALL other peaceful protesters and paint them in the wrongful light, especially recording them, staring at them angrily for simply eating and praying."
     
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    The professors were there without any flags or slogans. Their stance wasn't pro or anti palestine, it's about having their students being arrested, evicted, and made houseless, regardless of their beliefs. Not to mention, there are Jewish professors there too.
     
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    LOL. Good for Brandeis trying to capitalize on this.
     
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    I don't understand the desire to make Jewish people in the US the scapegoats for what happens in Israel. They're Jewish Americans, not Israelis in America.
     
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    I don't understand the actual reasons for antisemitism at all either. Who cares how a person prays, what they eat, or whatever else it is that makes us different. Just because someone is Jewish does not mean they cannot be American or British or German or Chinese or whatever.
     
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    @Ubiquitin - you have come a long way, props to you.
     

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