TSN's Dave D'Alessandro's Top 25 Players

Tb-Cain · 10-31-2000, 10:45 AM

From http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/preview/top25.html :

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1. Shaquille O'Neal
Lakers Seven All-Star selections, MVP (2000), All-NBA first team (1998, 2000)
2. Tim Duncan
Spurs Two All-Star selections, All-NBA first team (1998-2000), All-Defensive first team (1999, 2000)
3. Kevin Garnett
Timberwolves Three All-Star selections, All-NBA first team (2000), All-Defensive first team (2000)
4. Grant Hill
Magic Five All-Star selections, Co-Rookie of the Year (1995), All-NBA first team (1997)
5. Kobe Bryant
Lakers Two All-Star selections, All-Defensive first team (2000), All-NBA second team (2000)
6. Gary Payton
SuperSonics Six All-Star selections, All-NBA first team (1998, 2000), All-Defensive first team (1994-2000)
7. Jason Kidd
Suns Three All-Star selections, Co-Rookie of the Year (1995), All-NBA first team (1999, 2000)
8. Karl Malone
Jazz 12 All-Star selections, MVP (1997, 1999), All-NBA first team (1989-99)
9. Chris Webber
Kings Two All-Star selections, Rookie of the Year (1994), All-NBA second team (1999)
10. Vince Carter
Raptors One All-Star selection, Rookie of the Year (1999), All-Rookie first team (1999)
11. Stephon Marbury
Nets All-Rookie first team (1997)
12. Allen Iverson
76ers All-NBA first team (1999)
13. Shareef Abdur-Rahim
Grizzlies All-Rookie first team (1997)
14. Rasheed Wallace
Trail Blazers One All-Star selection
15. Eddie Jones
Heat Three All-Star selections
16. Scottie Pippen
Trail Blazers All-NBA first team (1994, 1995, 1996)
17. Michael Finley
Mavericks All-Rookie first team (1996)
18. Tracy McGrady
Magic Averaged 15.4 points and 6.3 rebounds in 1999-2000
19. David Robinson
Spurs MVP (1995)
20. Steve Francis
Rockets Co-Rookie of the Year (2000)
21. Jalen Rose
Pacers Most Improved Player (2000)
22. Latrell Sprewell
Knicks Three All-Star selections
23. Antonio McDyess
Nuggets All-Rookie first team (1996)
24. Lamar Odom
Clippers All-Rookie first team (2000)
25. Andre Miller
Cavaliers All-Rookie first team (2000)

Lamar Odom? Andre Miller? Tracy McGrady?

No Stackhouse, Glenn Robinson, Abdur-Rahim, and Sam Cassell? You could even consider Reggie Miller, Elton Brand, and Allan Houston. Andre Miller? Andre Miller? Will McGrady or Odom be better than Stackhouse this season? How about Glenn Robinson?

Elton Brand and Abdur-Rahim are both 20 and 10 guys. Andre Miller?

This guy picked the obvious, but when it came down to the final choices, he really took some chances.

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Beck · 10-31-2000, 11:02 AM

Shareef is #13. Andre Miller is a good PG, but I agree #25 is way too high. Odom is a good guy in fantasy basketball, but shouldn't be on this list.

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HOOP-T · 10-31-2000, 11:03 AM

KIDD AT NUMBER SEVEN???

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JayZ750 · 10-31-2000, 11:29 AM

I agree that Andre Miller is a good point guard, but I think his stats get inflated because of the team he is on. Imagine if Francis was on the Cavs...theyd be a possible playoff contender in the east or at least much much closer. I use the same argument for last year Rookie of the Year race-if Francis played on the Bulls last year (instead of Brand), you probably would have seen 4-6 more points per game, about the same assists and probably close to 8 boards a game as a guard.

Anyway, I also think Andre Miller is too high

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Hydra · 10-31-2000, 11:34 AM

#33 at 16,

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Lil Francis · 10-31-2000, 11:41 AM

Stevie ranked 20th

? Is that guy crazy.
Steve can easily be in the top ten.

verse · 10-31-2000, 11:47 AM

pippen over finley?
pippen over finley??
pippen over finley???

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moestavern19 · 10-31-2000, 11:56 AM

Why is everyone so high on Andre Miller , Is it because the Cavs traded Sura to give him more time?

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Rocketman95 · 10-31-2000, 12:20 PM

Miller had a great year last year. The Pippen ranking is a complete joke. It's stuff like that that makes me not take these things seriously.

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Ace · 10-31-2000, 12:31 PM

Dave is very high on Miller. If you've read some of his articles, you'll notice that he thinks that Andre will be better than Francis this upcoming season.

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Sane · 10-31-2000, 02:20 PM

Mcgrady can play four positions, he's suddenly 6'8, no fluke, a growth spurt....
so he can easily play 4 positions...led the league in blocks as a guard for a while, and was in the top 5 all season....One of the best defensive players in the league, has all the offensive moves....tell me, is there ANYTHING wrong with him? oh, and he has 12 good years ahead of him...and he didn't have a lot of minutes gettitng those numbers either...I take him over anyone on our team other than Francis....

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gr8-1 · 10-31-2000, 02:41 PM

Mcgrady can be on the list, but why Pippen ? Honestly, I may not like the guy, but I also think he sucks.

I think Kobe is a little high. I know some people would put Gary at #1 or #2.
Anyone think Marbury is a little too high also ?

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JuanValdez · 10-31-2000, 03:31 PM

That was my biggest surprise: Kobe Bryant above Gary Payton? Payton should be at least 4th.

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Rocket JJANG · 10-31-2000, 04:55 PM

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Originally posted by JuanValdez:
That was my biggest surprise: Kobe Bryant above Gary Payton? Payton should be at least 4th.

Considering Gary's character, he would be pretty pissed off.

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Franchises' Team · 10-31-2000, 05:05 PM

Kobe slighty too high over Payton and Kidd. Marbury too high over Iverson and Stevie. Quittin too high in the top 25...

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gr8-1 · 10-31-2000, 05:49 PM

Where the heck is Najera ? Allessandro will ruin the day when Eduardo wins mvp and leads dallas the the championship.

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Lil Francis · 10-31-2000, 05:53 PM

Why wasn't my boy Larry Hughes on the list

gettinbranded · 10-31-2000, 05:53 PM

McDyess over Brand? Hmmmmmm. The other power forwards I'll begrudgingly admit yes to. Don't know about 'Dice.

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gr8-1 · 10-31-2000, 06:00 PM

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Originally posted by Lil Francis:
Why wasn't my boy Larry Hughes on the list

Are you serious ? If there were questions of Mcgrady being on the list, then no way does Larry make it. Sorry.

Now, if we are talking about the 25 most talented players, then quite possibly he would be on it.

What about NOwitzki or ALlan Houston ?

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**Dr of Dunk** · 10-31-2000, 06:27 PM

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Originally posted by Lil Francis:
Why wasn't my boy Larry Hughes on the list

All your boy does is take 25-30 shots a game and his FG% sucks. He doesn't deserve to be in the top 25.

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