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Do the Rockets' REALLY have too many PFs?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Live, May 6, 2002.

  1. Live

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    This has been pointed out by several people on this board, time and again.

    But is it really accurate?

    Yes, the Rocks have 3 PFs.

    While no player is perfect, they each bring their own unique game to the position. And as for Eddie, he may turn out to be the next Duncan\'Sheed for all we know.

    However, each and every one of them have significant holes in their makeup that makes me wonder if the position is as stocked as some may think:

    Mo - Rebounding, defense

    KT - Size, streaky shooting

    EG - size, strength, post play

    And some of you are already talking about trading KT, which of course leaves an underdeveloped star-in-the-making and a sweet-shooting, albeit soft, combo F.


    Are you sure the Rockets have enough PFs?
     
  2. Sane

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    A 3rd string PF we can easily acquire for a million or 2. But KT won't accept that role. The only way this works, is if Griffin becomes the exclusive backup at C, and KT becomes the backup at PF.


    I don't want Mo T and Griff playing SF, we want them to learn to mix it up inside.


    I'd rather have Oakley or a 2nd round pick ro something as the 3rd string. KT will ask for more PT if we keep him, I guarantee it.

    Sometimes, less is more..


    Ofcourse, Rudy and his brilliant ideas....He said we probably will go into the season with 3 PF's, so we may have no choice..
     
  3. JuanValdez

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    I don't think we have too many, but neither would having 2 be too few. It's true that KT has strengths Mo doesn't have and vice-versa, but you can't cram them both into a single body. If you want Mo's shooting and KT's rebounding on the floor at the same time, you have to take out Walt's shooting or Cato's defense (such as they are).

    Of course, Griffin is the answer to all these concerns: he can shoot, he can rebound, he can play defense. He's missing an inside game, but he'll probably get one before too long. In the long run, the PF position is his and we just have to make sure we got someone who can play while he's resting.

    In the short-run, we may want someone while he's growing. But, we can still get time for everyone even with 3 PFs. KT can get minutes at SF, Griffin and Mo can get minutes at center.

    Looking at a front court and back court rotation, minutes could look vaguely like this, with an undetermined small forward (Walt? Rice? Morris? Butler? Odom?). This is just an 8-man with minutes changing as appropriate for the end of the bench or for effectiveness. (A SF who can swing from 2 to 3 may take minutes from Norris.)

    Francis 38
    Mobley 38
    Norris 20

    SF Starter 24
    Taylor 30
    Thomas 30
    Griffin 36
    Cato 24
     
  4. Live

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    Considering the news about Maurice "the new John Williams" Taylor and his "conditioning", this gets returned to the top.


    :( :confused:
     
  5. DearRock

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    REPOST


    I think this signals a change in strategy for the draft as we can now feel comfortable with our 5 spot. Nobody can say we do not have size and bulk down low: Cato 7/260, Collier 7/260 and MoT 6-10 300. All under contract. I do not see anyone in the draft that would improve on that. So then, in the draft we can now go after SF and PF and forget about a C. Now that it make less sense to trade KT, probably the draft can workout like this for us:

    1 Chicago Williams
    2 GoldSate Yao Ming
    3 Memphis Wagner
    4 Denver Nickoloz Tskitsishvili
    5 Houston Nene
    6 Cland Qyntel Woods
    7 New York Chris Marcus
    8 LA Clips Curtis Borchardt
    9 Miami Drew Gooden
    10 Phoenix Chris Wilcox
    11 Washin Bostjan Nachbar
    12 LA Clip Caron Butler
    13 Milwau Stoudamire
    14 Indiana Rush
    15 Houston Jared Jeffries
    16 Philada Melvin Ely
     
  6. ROXRAN

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    There are players in the past you have started, but have to be content to being bench players...Only then will we get stronger...
     
  7. BTM

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    KT and Griff are small forwards.
     
  8. NJRocket

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    If PF stands for Pathetic Forwards...we just have one...MO
     
  9. jevjnd

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    We don't have any real ones so no.

    Taylor=soft
    Thomas=sf
    Griffin=sf (maybe future pf)
     
  10. saleem

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    With Mo Taylor having ballooned to Shawn Kemp like status,and with Grifffin being too inexperienced and KT being undersized the Rockets might change their drafting strategy and pick either Wilcox,Gooden or Stoudamire instead of a 3 or a 5 with the 5th pick.
     
  11. Rocketman95

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    Wow only three days after the thread was started before you came up with that one. Your wittle head hoyt from thinking so hard. :( :rolleyes:
     
  12. leebigez

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    Maybe the knicks would go for a Cato for Harrington trade. I like Othella backing up the 4 and the 5 spots.
     

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