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The Largest Statistical Difference Between HOU and ATL/GS: AST RATIO

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by crossover, Mar 19, 2015.

  1. crossover

    crossover Contributing Member

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    It's not OffRtg, REB, TS%, Pace, or anything else (DefRtg btw something the Rockets excel at, being a Top 3 defense for most of the season).

    http://stats.nba.com/league/team/#!/advanced/?sort=AST_RATIO&dir=1
    Golden State and Atlanta Hawks are statistically #1 and #2 respectively whereas Houston is 18th. Of all the playoff bound teams, this is the worst ranking (aside from Westbrook show in OKC).

    http://stats.nba.com/league/team/#!/advanced/?sort=AST_TO&dir=1
    If we bring TOs into the equation, we see LAC, GSW, ATL in the Top 3 and HOU in the bottom four with only Philly, the Kings, and the Jazz doing worse in AST/TO. The Rockets are bottom five in most TO categories.

    http://www.82games.com/assisted.htm
    For the assist part, some might argue it's because we don't have good shooters - but I think it's the other way around. Historically an assisted shot produces +0.16 more points per shot than an unassisted. Ariza had amazing percentages when he was with the Wizards in a better set offense. Bev has a high eFG% from shooting 3pt in the corner. Terrence Jones has incredible eFG% when working within few feet and Dwight has one of the highest TS% off PnR in the NBA.

    This is evidence of two problems that have been stated in many ways before:

    1. Something has to change with McHale and staff on offense.
    2. We need more player(s) who can handle the ball, initiate offense, and with a high offensive IQ.

    Missing out on Dragic was sad, because he would have been a great fix (makes me want to bump Hitler reaction), but this is a problem that goes much deeper than that. Harden can't ISO carry the team alone (and for sure DH ISO won't).
     
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  2. SeeingRocketRed

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    I agree. Hero ball for damn sure didn't work last year in the playoffs, and it won't work again this year. If we don't run PLAYS then we're one and done again. The teams that are greater than the sum of their parts are generally the ones that hoist trophies, like the Spurs under Pop. Let JD Bickerstaff scheme the defense, let someone else draw out Xs and Os on offense, and just let McHale tell everyone to "grab every rebound and run em out". Second thought, don't let him do that either, just let him hand out some gatorade and yell at the refs.

    You can't really get your transition game rolling in most playoff games because the other team is more locked-in defensively. The team has to be able to execute a half-court offense every time down the floor, period. That ish drove me crazy last year, and that ish is going to drive me crazy again this year, isn't it? Please for the love of God tell me that our coaching staff learned something from the playoffs last year...
     
  3. WinkFan

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    The Rockets are 10th in assist percentage, which is the percentage of field goal that are assisted. The Rockets are lower on the other list due to their high turnovers.
     
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  4. Exiled

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    One of the main reasons the assist /ratio low in comparison is that Ariza/PB cant hit wide open shots or TJ/DMo miss an easy lay up.
     
  5. davidghall

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    And because Harden, as great as he is, leads the league in isolation plays.
     
  6. larsv8

    larsv8 Contributing Member

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    We get plenty of wide open shots.

    People just don't hit them.
     
  7. Duncan McDonuts

    Duncan McDonuts Contributing Member

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    So either we get better shooters or find play makers.

    Our philosophy is run the break or shoot a three. We don't have good enough ball handlers or cutters to get easy layups.

    Our team isn't built to win championships. We'd be lucky it make it past the 2nd round.
     
  8. snowconeman22

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    Free Throws .... they are the main reason why we are 18th. So many of our points come from the line and those do not count as assisted.
     
  9. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Atlanta and GS lead the league in 3 point percentage. Most jump shots are assisted. You statisticians can do the math.

    Btw they are 1 and 2 and we are 18th
     
  10. kingjosh

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    This was the inevitable trade off between ariza and Parsons (And also Patrick becoming terrible defensively). I dont imagine the AST/TO being much better when dwight comes back

    However at the same time the Ortg of 103.3 indicates that the offences is still functional. Im hoping the rockets can draft a good PG.
     
  11. Garner

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    Sooooo you're saying we need a secondary ball handler.....?
     
  12. rocketsballin

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    dont need advanced stats to know that the offense is the same as last season's and we need another playmaker
     
  13. hakeemthagreat

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    Another ball handler? That's gonna make this team shoot a better percentage? Lol. A better ball handler will make us start hitting our free throws too? Man you guys are just getting your excuses ready if we lose in the 1st round again. Bottom line, we take too many 3's for a team with no 3pt shooters
     
  14. Rocket2008

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    Don' hate, appreciate! Thanks for the stats and indeed our offense needs to change and Morey needs to work harder on getting the right players. It's amazing that for a guy nuts for stats, Morey's do not tell him McHale is horrible. It probably does, but Leslie and him like McHale too much to let him go. It was Morey's ego that caused us to lose Rick Adelman and now he keeps Mchale because of personal reasons as well. Morey is not 100% about what's best for the team, but a lot more emotionally invested in the relationships with personnel than he lets on.
     
  15. PeppermintCandy

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    In some ways, this current team is a reprise of the JVG era Rockets' style of play.

    A wing player initiating a huge chunk of the offense (TMac/Harden)

    A star center manning the paint (Yao/Howard)

    A roster that's much more geared towards defense than offense.

    That JVG team would get stuck offensively when opposing teams focused on stopping TMac, but they would try to make up for it with stifling defense.

    I do think McHale has a better offensive scheme, but JVG had much better plan and personnel on the defensive side of the ball.
     
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  16. rocketsballin

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    dont forget the 18th rank in 3pt shooting as a team at 34%
     
  17. sealclubber1016

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    The largest statistical difference is that they make 3's. The Rockets only rank 19th in FGM, despite playing at a fast pace. You don't get assists for FT's. Combine that with Harden Iso's.

    There is nothing wrong with our style, our personnel on the other hand leaves much to be desired. Mediocre shooters on a 3 heavy team, and only one legit playmaker.
     
  18. cheke64

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    Hahaha. they bash the **** outta of you about how good we are and then when it gets near they get humbled. Just like Morey.
     
  19. Scarface281

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    Of course a ball handler could help with percentage. Someone else who can drive and have the defense collapse and then make the proper pass to the open man. Sounds better than relying on Ariza or Brewer isos and pull up jumpers.
     
  20. EightDoobies

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    Our damn players just can't hit 3's, make free throws and careless passing. :mad:
     
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