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Rudy Gay on the Trade Block. Houston Possible?
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The Rudy Gay Dilemma: If He's Dealt, Where Will He Land?

The Sensible Candidates

Houston Rockets

Houston has about $7 million in cap space, though pinning down the precise number is tough after so many trades, waivers, and cuts. Houston could chase a power forward such as Smith with max-level cap room this summer, but if they’re worried their iPad campaigns will come up short again, they could use their current flexibility to snag a borderline All-Star in his prime. (And to be clear: I’m betting that “borderline All-Star” is just about Gay’s ceiling.)

A four-man package of Carlos Delfino-Toney Douglas-Patrick Patterson-Marcus Morris is right on the edge of passing cap muster (depending on Houston’s precise level of cap space to the dollar), but it would also eviscerate Houston’s power-forward rotation. That package gives Memphis some shooting, an extra power forward, and a backup point guard, though the Grizz might also request a first-rounder.

Houston could adjust by adding Cole Aldrich’s larger salary or substituting Terrence Jones for one of Morris/Patterson, though the latter course would then require some extra cap gymnastics.

The Rockets have a nice, young small forward in Chandler Parsons on a crazy cheap contract, but never count them out.
 
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Memphis has had recent conversations w/ other teams about trading Rudy Gay. What deals might work? http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-tr...e-will-he-land
 
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Doubt HOU is anywhere near a plausible destination.

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This would make us the Atl hawks before they traded JJ.

Gay is not a Morey player at all.

The Rockets need to wait, a superstar FA will be interested if not now within a year or 2. No need to get a max player who has a ceiling of "borderline all-star."
 
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Is it a coincidence that Hollinger gets brought in, and now Rudy Gay is on the trade block?
 
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This would make us the Atl hawks before they traded JJ.

Gay is not a Morey player at all.

The Rockets need to wait, a superstar FA will be interested if not now within a year or 2. No need to get a max player who has a ceiling of "borderline all-star."
That border line allstar player and max player can be used later for a trade for a allstar. Just a bigger asset.
 
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I really think Gay is borderline untradable on that contract.
 
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morey would never trade for Gay lol
 
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That border line allstar player and max player can be used later for a trade for a allstar. Just a bigger asset.
I don't think it can.

Assets are normally 1 of 3 things:

1) Quality draft picks (Obviously the higher the better)
2) Expiring contracts (Kevin Martin)
3) Players on reasonable contracts that "have potential" (Carl Landry)

Very few teams want a Gay/Joe Johnson. Look what the Hawks too for Joe Johnson (who was touted as the immovable contract), a bunch of expirings, that's it.

Gay will soon fall into that category, he might be a bit better than Johnson, but not significantly and he doesn't fit the role a Harden/Lin offense needs. I'd rather have Steve Novak/Parsons combo @ the 3 than a Gay/Parsons combo ONLY based on spreading the floor type offense + the huge contract difference.

Option 1 w/ Novak would give us a huge amt of cap flexibility & a spread out offense that can hit 3s.

Option 2 gives us no cap flexibility and Gay is ok at 3s, but nothing special and he would be a 3rd ball dominator, which we definitely don't need.
 
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Yea, Rudy Gay is just plain awful.

If anything, reroute him to a third team and get us good players.

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Memphis is stupid if they want to trade Rudy Gay. And even dumber if they trade Gay for Patterson. Morris and Douglas.
 
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Is it a coincidence that Hollinger gets brought in, and now Rudy Gay is on the trade block?
Rudy Gay PER: 15.3
Rudy Gay Salary (in $Million): 16.4


He is a good player, but rather spend cap room on something better.

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We could be a part of a gay 3 team deal where we don't end up with him but some other piece(s) to the puzzle.

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Wow. I thought his contract was in 12 mil range not true its:
$16,460,532 2012/13
$17,888,932 2013/14
$19,317,326 2014/15
 
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Is it a coincidence that Hollinger gets brought in, and now Rudy Gay is on the trade block?
No way.

I was very surprised he listed Houston as a possible trade destination. Ball stopping wing with a huge contract? Don't see why Morey would even take him for free.
 
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I do like Rudy Gay the player, but who would we give up to get him?

And how much better is Rudy Gay at $16,400,000 THIS year than Chandler Parsons at $800,000-ish?

Now, if Adelman and KAAAAAHN! want a menage-a-Gay-Love-trois that lands us Kevin Love, something like that, then okay, let the slap and tickle begin. Gay can play both 3 and 4 and wouldn't be the worst consolation prize for them.

But Rudy Gay, here in Houston? Don't see it.

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Memphis is stupid if they want to trade Rudy Gay. And even dumber if they trade Gay for Patterson. Morris and Douglas.
Memphis can't afford that roster. Otherwise they wouldn't entertain offers for the player.
 
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Wow. Who would have thought Gay might get traded after the Grizz hired Hollinger? Oh, yeah, I did.
Ok. CH did, too.

I agree that it's highly unlikely the Rockets will trade for Gay, but I also believe that like Mayo he'd be substantially better on another team, especially if the team trading for him uses him as a combo forward -- going small against certain match-ups.
The Grizzlies offense is just a mess and certainly doesn't put Gay in great position to play up to his potential/be efficient on offense.

Gay's contract is a killer, though.
 
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Is it a coincidence that Hollinger gets brought in, and now Rudy Gay is on the trade block?
Hollinger is not a big Gay guy.
 
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So with Lin, Harden, and Gay on the floor at the same time how many balls will we need on the court?

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