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Captain Hook is offline Old 12-11-2012, 08:25 PM   #1
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http://m.washingtonpost.com/sports/w...22d_story.html

Harden was almost a Wizard prior to season, but the Wizards didnt want to pay. Did they make right choice?
 
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As a Houston fan and as an OKC fan, thanks Wizards! (Good job, good effort.)

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports...22d_story.html

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The Washington Wizards turned down a trade with the Oklahoma City Thunder for James Harden this summer because team owner Ted Leonsis was unwilling to commit to what would have been a roughly $80 million, five-year contract for the high-scoring player, according to multiple people with knowledge of the proposed deal.

The Wizards would have sent rookie guard Bradley Beal and second-year forward Chris Singleton to the Thunder in return for Harden, winner of the NBA’s sixth-man award with Oklahoma City last season, according to these individuals, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk about the proposal.

Insight on the Wizards and all the latest news from Post reporter Michael Lee.

.The Thunder traded Harden to the Houston Rockets in October. The Rockets, who play the Wizards in Houston Wednesday, gave Harden, who is having an all-star caliber season averaging nearly 25 points per game, the large contract he had been seeking.

Leonsis, Wizards President Ernie Grunfeld and Thunder General Manager Sam Presti all declined comment when asked about the proposed trade. One Wizards official denied that Oklahoma City had offered Harden in exchange for Beal and Singleton, stating that the Thunder was also seeking an established player — which the Wizards didn’t have — in return. “That’s not true,” the official said about the proposed deal.

Beal was drafted third overall by Washington in June, and the Thunder didn’t make the offer for Beal and Singleton until two months later, according to an NBA front office executive, who requested anonymity because of the sensitivity of the subject matter.

A person with knowledge of Oklahoma City’s interest in Beal said the Wizards’ decision to hold on to Beal made sense because teams are often willing to trade draft picks but are more inclined to keep players once they’ve been selected.

The Wizards, who before the trade proposal came up had acquired three expensive veteran players, also likely would have been subject to an NBA luxury tax penalty for having a total payroll over the prescribed threshold if they had signed Harden.

Considering how poorly this season has begun for the Wizards, who had an NBA-worst 2-15 record entering Tuesday’s game in New Orleans, and the general lack of excitement surrounding a team, dealing for Harden might have been worth the risk in the short term.

Harden was drafted third overall out of Arizona State in 2009 and came into his own last season, when he helped the Thunder reach the NBA Finals before playing onthe gold medal-winning U.S. Olympic team. The 6-foot-5 lefty ranks fifth in the NBA in scoring this season.

The Wizards would have had one of the more dynamic young backcourts in the NBA, with the 22-year-old John Wall and the 23-year-old Harden. Harden also could have helped the Wizards better withstand the absence of Wall, who remains sidelined with a stress injury in his left knee, which was diagnosed in late September.

Oklahoma City traded Harden because it risked a stiff luxury tax bill once the penalties of the new collective bargaining agreement take hold in the 2013-14 season.

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As a Houston fan and as an OKC fan, thanks Wizards! (Good job, good effort.)
Exactly. The Thunder got waaaay more in the deal with Houston. Beal wouldnt have made the impact KMart is having with them now. And thats not including the draft picks we gave them
 
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Wasn't this the Domino that didn't fall that would have been the catalyst to a flurry of draft Day trades that would have netted us Dwight Howard? Thank goodness this didn't happen.

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John Wall
James Harden
Trevor Ariza
Emeka Okafor
Nene

Would of been a fun starting lineup to watch, glad it didn't happen though.

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John Wall
James Harden
Trevor Ariza
Emeka Okafor
Nene

Would of been a fun starting lineup to watch, glad it didn't happen though.
Seraphin has been getting those big man minutes. He's a promising player.

There is an old joke:

Q: "What is an Okafor?"

A: "An Oka is for nothing useful at all."
 
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Singleton is a very promising player and Brad Beal was the darling of the nba draft, a guy with uber talent.

Maybe Washington saw what Harden really is, a nice player but not a max guy and not worth 2 high draft picks.
 
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The article states that a wizard official denies that any deal was possible. Thunder wanted a high quality player in return--which aside from Wall, they didn't have.
 
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The article states that a wizard official denies that any deal was possible. Thunder wanted a high quality player in return--which aside from Wall, they didn't have.
Well they would deny it regardless just to make sure they don't hurt any players feelings.

There was a lot of stuff coming in and out that the Thunder could trade Harden to the Bobcats though.

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Singleton is a very promising player and Brad Beal was the darling of the nba draft, a guy with uber talent.

Maybe Washington saw what Harden really is, a nice player but not a max guy and not worth 2 high draft picks.
You are... as always... a moron
 
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I don't know if Beal's got it. Solid role player but a star? Questionable

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Jeremy Lin > John Wall.
 
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Harden was almost a Wizard prior to season, but the Wizards didnt want to pay. Did they make right choice?
They were once again stupid. Good for us and the Rockets!
 
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Maybe Washington saw what Harden really is, a nice player but not a max guy and not worth 2 high draft picks.
I think you're thinking of your Gay boy who got a max contract larger than Harden's. But it's all good cause he showed us last year that he's on Durant's level right?

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Only in the world of "What" is:

Rudy Gay worth the max
Rudy Gay on Durant's level
Brad Beal better than Harden
Harden not worth the max
 
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As a Houston fan and as an OKC fan, thanks Wizards!
Well said. Presti and Morey should send Leonsis and Grunfeld a bouquet of flowers. Wizards remain a failure, Rockets improve and gain some hope for the future and OKC is still a championship contender.

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My thoughts on the matter:

*Houston offer is still better than Wizards
-on paper, 3rd pick sounds awesome but in reality there isn't a big difference between Jeremy Lamb and Beal. Beal played awesome in college however his shot seemed to desert him once he suited up for the pros, and physically speaking he isn't that tall or athletic either. If you ask me between the two of them Jeremy Lamb actually has more potential simply because he's longer and his shot has looked real good. Chris Singleton isn't worth talking about IMHO, while Kmart gives them the stop gap option they need this year. The lottery pick of course cinches the deal.

*Wizards pretty dumb for passing on this
-from the article, seemed like OKC talked to the Wiz first, and the Wiz refused. LOL wtf? How dumb can the Wiz get? Beal at his very best would probably be James Harden. I guess they were trying to avoid the Lux tax, but if that were the case why trade for Okafor, Ariza and Nene in the first place lol.
 
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Beal would've fit so nicely w/ the Thunder as a spot-up shooter.

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Singleton is a very promising player and Brad Beal was the darling of the nba draft, a guy with uber talent.

Maybe Washington saw what Harden really is, a nice player but not a max guy and not worth 2 high draft picks.
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