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Lakers responded to that with a win on Friday

http://www.latimes.com/sports/basket...,0,51758.story
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Kobe Bryant is happier now. Slightly. Maybe.

He was in an angry mood at Thursday's practice, calling out his teammates for not being tough enough in games, The Times has learned.

It wasn't a long rant, maybe half a minute, but he left practice in a hurry, stalking off the court toward the end of it, irritated that the first team had lost to the reserves several times. He knocked some items off a table at midcourt on his way to the locker room and did not talk to reporters who were let in after his outburst.

"It was worth seeing," said a person at Lakers practice that day.

Maybe it worked. The energized Lakers beat the Denver Nuggets, 122-103, Friday at Staples Center.

Bryant's message wasn't light. It contained expletives and hammered at the same theme. The Lakers should not be playing this poorly. Everyone needed to be stronger emotionally and physically.

Can a tirade save a season? Too early to tell. Much too early. But it didn't hurt Friday for a team that improved to 8-8.

Bryant had 14 points and eight assists, his anger ebbing after several days of smoldering from the Lakers' 79-77 loss Tuesday to Indiana. He had 40 points that game while fighting flu-like symptoms but also had 10 turnovers.

He was less error-prone Friday (four turnovers), as were his teammates.

Dwight Howard was strong almost across the board, scoring 28 points with 20 rebounds and three blocked shots.

And what's this? the Lakers' reserves actually contributed. Big time.

Antawn Jamison was more than solid, scoring 33 points as the Lakers' backups outscored those of the Nuggets, 61-47. It was the first time a Lakers reserve scored more than 30 since Shaquille O'Neal had 33 in 1998 against Golden State.

"Just being patient," Jamison said, "and knowing the things I can do on the court would contribute to the team."

Jodie Meeks had 21 points, including five three-pointers in the second quarter, as he and Jamison became the first pair of Lakers off the bench to score more than 20 in a game since Bryant (25 points) and Nick Van Exel (20 points) did it against Utah in 1998.

As unhappy as Bryant was Thursday, Howard played with youthful exuberance Friday, smiling often and thoroughly enjoying a return to relevance after averaging 11.5 in the previous four games.

On one third-quarter play, he one-handed a dunk off a lob from Pau Gasol. Then he gazed in mock admiration at his right hand as he went back downcourt.

He made a three-pointer with 9.8 seconds to play, the second of his career, and laughed as he left the court. It was the Lakers' 17th three-pointer, tying the team record for threes in a regulation game (against Seattle in 2003).

Bryant was still tight-lipped after the game, if not dour. "If guys are too happy, I need to bring them back down to Earth tomorrow," he said with more than a slight edge.

As Steve Nash's left leg slowly tried to heal 30 days already Bryant had taken over the Lakers' offense, handling the ball almost exclusively with Nash and Steve Blake out.

"Kobe is the type of player that he's going to try to get you to the promised land, and if he feels like people are struggling, he's going to take over more," Lakers Coach Mike D'Antoni said beforehand.

D'Antoni also addressed Bryant's unhappiness since the Indiana game.

"I'm sure he wasn't happy about it. He felt like he was trying to get us the win," D'Antoni said. "I'd rather go to battle with something like that. He's got it tuned up as hard as you can go, and that's all you can ask for as a coach. Everybody should hold themselves accountable."

It undoubtedly tied into Bryant's anger Thursday. Whether it related to Friday's victory, the Lakers were all smiles afterward.
 
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Funny b/c it ends up with him having his worst shooting game (thus shoots less) and his teammates shooting more. Maybe that was it lol. But seriously, when Nash returns, Kobe has to take on a Joe Johnson with Phoenix or Paul Pierce role in order for the Lakers to be dominant. He can't be averaging 25+ points anymore if this team ever reaches its potential.

Dwight and Pau need to be dominant, and their bench needs to show up like they did last night.
 
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Funny b/c it ends up with him having his worst shooting game (thus shoots less) and his teammates shooting more. Maybe that was it lol. But seriously, when Nash returns, Kobe has to take on a Joe Johnson with Phoenix or Paul Pierce role in order for the Lakers to be dominant. He can't be averaging 25+ points anymore if this team ever reaches its potential.

Dwight and Pau need to be dominant, and their bench needs to show up like they did last night.
Kobe is making up for Pau sucking. Gasol is shooting 42% for the season. 22% from 3 to 9 feet shooting area. Thats where most post players operate.
 
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Kobe is making up for Pau sucking. Gasol is shooting 42% for the season. 22% from 3 to 9 feet shooting area. Thats where most post players operate.
Funny Pau only sucks when he plays with the Lakers. If you watch the Lakers, Brown/D'antoni don't know what the hell they're doing. You put Phil back there, and Pau will return to his star ways.

This guy was beasting a few months ago in the Olympics vs us and required double teams.
 
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Funny Pau only sucks when he plays with the Lakers. If you watch the Lakers, Brown/D'antoni don't know what the hell they're doing. You put Phil back there, and Pau will return to his star ways.

This guy was beasting a few months ago in the Olympics vs us and required double teams.
Pau Gasol under Phil Jackson in 2011 playoffs

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelo...2011/pau-gasol

Round 1 vs Hornets starting vs Carl Landry: 13.5 pts, 6.8 rebs, 42% FG 36 mins a game
Round 2 vs Dallas starting vs Dirk: 12.5 pts, 9.3 rebs, 42% FG, 36 mins a game


Struggled vs guys who aren't defensive stalworths in the playofs under Phil Jackson

3 different head coaches, same problems. Common factor? Pau Gasol
 
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Pau Gasol under Phil Jackson in 2011 playoffs

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelo...2011/pau-gasol

Round 1 vs Hornets starting vs Carl Landry: 13.5 pts, 6.8 rebs, 42% FG 36 mins a game
Round 2 vs Dallas starting vs Dirk: 12.5 pts, 9.3 rebs, 42% FG, 36 mins a game


Struggled vs guys who aren't defensive stalworths in the playofs under Phil Jackson

3 different head coaches, same problems. Common factor? Pau Gasol
He was putting up 19/10 under Phil Jackson. The Lakers sucked that playoff run in general. Pull up Kobe's stats that playoff run too.
 
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Hero ball next game
 
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He was putting up 19/10 under Phil Jackson. The Lakers sucked that playoff run in general. Pull up Kobe's stats that playoff run too.

I thought we were talking about D'ANtoni/Mike Brown misusing him? I dont see Pau putting up 19/10 in the playoffs that year. Why didn't he?

Kobe at least had a knee injury (he later went to Germay to fix that). What is Pau's excuse?
 
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Pau Gasol under Phil Jackson in 2011 playoffs

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelo...2011/pau-gasol

Round 1 vs Hornets starting vs Carl Landry: 13.5 pts, 6.8 rebs, 42% FG 36 mins a game
Round 2 vs Dallas starting vs Dirk: 12.5 pts, 9.3 rebs, 42% FG, 36 mins a game


Struggled vs guys who aren't defensive stalworths in the playofs under Phil Jackson

3 different head coaches, same problems. Common factor? Pau Gasol
Care to post Kobe's numbers from the 2011 or 2012 playoffs? He played pretty horrible himself.

So, Kobe threw a fit and that motivated his team to play better? I guess. When isn't Kobe throwing a fit? I would think they would be used to that. The difference probably had more to do with something they aren't used to him doing....not taking all the damn shots.
 
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Kobe is a ball player, a husband, a father, a mentor, inspiring actor, vocalist all in one. The perfect human being.
 
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Funny because...

Wait. Not funny at all.

Just BOSS
 
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Kobe is a ball player, a husband, a father, a mentor, inspiring actor, vocalist all in one. The perfect human being.
This is true...
 
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Wasn't a joke, I'm being frealz.
 
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Screw the Lakers. Specifically Kobe and Dwight Howard, but let's not leave anyone out.

Words do not describe the walking embodiment of pretentiousness that is Kobe Bryant.
 
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Care to post Kobe's numbers from the 2011 or 2012 playoffs? He played pretty horrible himself.

So, Kobe threw a fit and that motivated his team to play better? I guess. When isn't Kobe throwing a fit? I would think they would be used to that. The difference probably had more to do with something they aren't used to him doing....not taking all the damn shots.
Kobe in 2011 round 1 22.5 pts 44% FG. Higher FG than Pau
Kobe in 2011 round 2 23.3pts 46% FG Higher FG than Pau

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelo...11/kobe-bryant

Kobe in 2012 round 1 29 points 44.5% FG. Higher than Pau
Kobe in 2012 round 2 31pts 42.6% FG Pau 44% FG


so 3 out of the 4 series Kobe shoots a higher % than Pau despite taking more 3s despite taking more contested shots, despite taking more shots away from the basket...what Pau Gasol has become is just pathetic. We saw what happened to Odom once he left the Lakers unfortunately the decline has already started for Pau

Hes a great human being. Class A act off the court but his time as an all star are done


http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelo...2012/pau-gasol
 
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He farted??
 
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Why is he viewed as pretentious again?

Is he supposed to actually secretly wanting to be nice to his teammates, and secretly really hate winning?

You can call him a douche, but never pretentious
 
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Kobe trying his best to be MJ. I think it's lame. One thing I like about LeBron is that he tries to by himself. Happy and fun loving all the time and serious when necessary. Kobe has no identity, the one he portrays is stolen from MJ.
 
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Kobe will never relinquish the role of being the man...and till he does..the team will have no direction...Kobe wants to win..with him being the center of attention...and Nash, Pau, and Howard as his minions...I can easily see that they wont win anything this year as well...
 
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Why is he viewed as pretentious again?

Is he supposed to actually secretly wanting to be nice to his teammates, and secretly really hate winning?

You can call him a douche, but never pretentious
Sure you can. For all his talk about winning, the Lakers could've won a lot more had he not feuded with Shaq.
 

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