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DreamWeaver is offline Old 11-27-2012, 11:17 AM   #361
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Felton reminds me of Mike James.
A Mike James who can't shoot.

I watched the Knicks/Nets game last night on TNT and I was surprised to see how trigger happy Felton was. How did Knicks win 6 straight in the beginning of season anyway?
 
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There is one thing that Felton can never do as well as Lin. Be Chinese. If you doubt that Alexander has Lin as a Yao-like cash cow, just look at the advertising at the arena and the ethnicity of his two arena personalities.

Can't blame Leslie for getting his. More power to him. The NBA has to be loving this as well. As long as Lin can carry his weight and not hold the team back too much, he is the starter. Sorry Raymond. No one said that life is fair.
Life wasn't fair for Lin, if he were not Asian, being player of the year in his high school year, he would have got basketball scholarship, would have been selected in the draft, nobody would criticize his contract, etc.
 
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A Mike James who can't shoot.

I watched the Knicks/Nets game last night on TNT and I was surprised to see how trigger happy Felton was. How did Knicks win 6 straight in the beginning of season anyway?
Felton is not a bad shooter. Like Mike James, he looks for his shots rather than tries to run the offense. And like Mike James, he thinks more highly of himself than what he really is.

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Sometimes in the game, Mr. Felton shot an airball. How come there was no highlight about it? Oh. No one noticed it because he shot 19 times and made only 3. Carmelo was not the focal point last night. Mr. Felton was.
 
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Actually, the tragic part is that he thinks the problem was his shooting.

The problem with Felton's play is NOT that he shot badly, but that he KEPT on shooting even after shooting badly all night. Not only did he keep shooting, he kept taking BAD shots.... contested shots, early clock shots, long 3's and forced jumpers.

Smart PG's are supposed to know when they're shooting poorly... and then Adjust.

Felton should have been more selective... either by passing the ball more (he opted to NOT pass to open players like Chandler multiple times), or he should have stopped taking long jumpers and instead looked more for short range jumpers and layups.

I've had a sneaking suspicion for some time that Felton's outsized numbers were more a result of Jason Kidd's playmaking than Felton suddenly becoming a better PG overnight... while it's too early to say for sure, his performance against the Nets (an inferior interior defensive team) sure doesn't argue well for the sustainability of high level performance.

Still, we need to always remember... SAMPLE SIZE.

Lots of basketball to go... then we'll have a better idea of how good/bad Felton will be this season.
Exactly. Deron Williams had a bad shooting night too, but he was his team's best player still.
 
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Felton is not a bad shooter. Like Mike James, he looks for his shots rather than tries to run the offense. And like Mike James, he thinks more highly of himself than what he really is.
Mike James, for the newbie's, came to Houston in 2008 replacing the fan favorite Rafer Alston. This is the off-season that boy genius Morey signed Mike James and Stevie Francis to play PG.

James showed up in Houston with his 6-mil per year contract and was pining on the bench all season long.

Kind of reminded me of all this Lowry/Dragic/Lin debate to some extent.
 
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Whatever. If Lin was on the Knicks he would be doing a lot better there than here because he would have the ball in his hands just like Felton. Lin can create open shots for his team mates and there are good shooters and finishers on the Knicks' team. Just like Lin did last year. Lin still has a lot more upside. Knicks just screw themselves signing an average PG for the next 3-4 years. Doubt any team would want to trade for Felton.

Lin still gets a lot of assists on this team, even though he barely handles the ball.
LOF? You call Felton average but not Lin ? When Felton was in NY wih stoudemire, he was playing at near all star level consistently....not just for 2 weeks. Lin's linsanity fluke only lasted 2 weeks and he got exposed towards the end of his streak by better teams such as Miami
 
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LOF? You call Felton average but not Lin ? When Felton was in NY wih stoudemire, he was playing at near all star level consistently....not just for 2 weeks. Lin's linsanity fluke only lasted 2 weeks and he got exposed towards the end of his streak by better teams such as Miami

LOH? So Felton played well for a few months with Stoudemire, how did he play in Denver or Portland? So Lin didn't have any good games after Miami?
 
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Felton's portly Portland legacy lives on.

This tweet is about Portland's recent loss to Detroit, lolz.





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[QUOTE=gtmkcp;7381492]how did he play in Denver or Portland?



He was playing as well as lin is playing now if not better. BTW, most nba fans will tell you Felton>lin
 
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Felton's portly Portland legacy lives on.

This tweet is about Portland's recent loss to Detroit, lolz.




Was just going to post this! Felton was some serious trash in Portland and a laughingstock around the league by the end of their playoff-less season, and anyone who tells you differently is sorely mistaken.
 
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LOF? You call Felton average but not Lin ? When Felton was in NY wih stoudemire, he was playing at near all star level consistently....not just for 2 weeks. Lin's linsanity fluke only lasted 2 weeks and he got exposed towards the end of his streak by better teams such as Miami
Round 43857 between LOH and LOF.

BTW, I admire your obsession with Lin. You actually signed on here just to spew your hate toward Lin. Felton has nothing on you.

Oh wait, is that you, Felton?
 
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Round 43857 between LOH and LOF.

BTW, I admire your obsession with Lin. You actually signed on here just to spew your hate toward Lin. Felton has nothing on you.

Oh wait, is that you, Felton?
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C1UTCH-C1TY did your trolling ass really sign up here just to specifically hate on Jeremy? Did your imaginary girlfriend have an affair with him? Did he dunk on you in middle school? Your obsession is disturbing.

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Lin vs felton
Lin vs dragic
Lin vs lowry
Lin vs lin's back up
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Wow, endless topic.

Never mind, even he does not play well (That is true right now), we lin fans just love his personality, his unselfishness, his team spirit and his humbleness. We know he is not superstar, you can say he is an average PG, So What? That does not stop people around the world love him. You mad?
 
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Howard Megdal's take on Lin/Felton, after last night's game:
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One other thought on Raymond Felton: for some reason, much of Twitter appears dedicated to the idea that Felton is either a superstar, or precisely the 3-for-19 train wreck he played like last night. Its ironic that so much of public opinion is massed at these two extremes for a guy whose career Player Efficiency Rating is the essence of league average.

Anyhow, since I found myself both defending Felton and defending myself for being too hard on Felton within 24 hours on Twitter, just thought Id briefly point out what I see so far.

In his first 12 games, Felton was absolutely excellent, with a 19.1 PER, and a key part of the Knicks. Last night, he cost them the game, not just by missing shots, but by failing to find Anthony or Tyson Chandler (in the midst of a 13-for-14 night, OMG) late in the game.

Im guessing hell spend the rest of the year somewhere in between. Say, about league average. Which will be better than the Knicks got out of point guards who werent Jeremy Lin last year, and worse than they got from Lin.

Meanwhile, Lin has struggled so far. His PER is 11.7, and his shooting has been Landry Fields-like. I believe he will be better than hes been. So far, Felton has thoroughly outplayed him. I believe it is too soon to draw broad conclusions about this, however.

So thats how I see Lin/Felton.

http://knicks.lohudblogs.com/2012/11...medium=twitter
 
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Lin vs felton
Lin vs dragic
Lin vs lowry
Lin vs lin's back up
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Wow, endless topic.
Lin vs the rim

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I hope this puts things in perspective. We flip out when Lin goes 2 of 9 and when Felton goes 3 of 18 we still trashing Lin.
 
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I hope this puts things in perspective. We flip out when Lin goes 2 of 9 and when Felton goes 3 of 18 we still trashing Lin.
Don't forget about Deron Williams: 6/17 and 1/6 from 3pt range.
 
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Don't forget about Deron Williams: 6/17 and 1/6 from 3pt range.
those dudes don't play on the Rockets, so Rockets fans don't care.

Some kid scored like 130 points in college. that doesn't affect the Rockets.

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Lin vs the rim
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