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Dirty Laundry on Libya

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by giddyup, Oct 24, 2012.

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  1. giddyup

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    Confirmation of the coverup. Shameful
     
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    Per Reuters: White House told of militant claim two hours after Libya attack: emails

     
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    Another chapter in a ****ty Presidency.
     
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    One thing to keep in mind is that radical groups often claim responsibility for attacks even if they weren't responsible. That Ansar al-Sharia claimed responsibility wasn't a claim that could be taken on face value at the moment but needed to be investigated.
     
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    Yeah - this whole line of argument is ridiculous. Intelligence agencies get a lot of different and conflicting information in the hours and days after an event - it's their job to parse through it and present information to the administration. We know for a fact that, as of 5 days after the attack, they were telling the WH that thought it was a spontaneous attack and were still gathering information. That's what the WH relayed to the public. That's really all that matters.

    Trying to take specific intelligence information and turn it into a conspiracy theory either indicates a partisan witchhunt or complete ignorance as to how the intelligence system in the country works.
     
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    Yeah, so would a claim of a protest over a youtube video.....
     
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    Spontaneous attacks where someone gets worked up and luckliy has a mortar to cooridinate and then successfully fire on the compound. Ok......
     
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    Both. Sigh. BS Mountain in a rainstorm again.
     
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    This administration is comprised of angry, lying, hyper-partisan political operatives who think the American public is stupid. They will cheat and deceive until someone calls them out on it, and unfortunately, the media is all too willing to help them out. They place politics over the interests of our country time and time again. Liars don't deserve our trust.
     
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    Is your position that the CIA was lying?
     
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    We do? Based on what?

    Nothing I have seen said that.
     
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    A very sad circumstance and a tragedy that we lost four people.

    But what is truly horrifying are people trying like hell to turn this into a partisan attack on the president.

    Too bad some people just refuse to honor the wishes of Mr. Steven's father.
     
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    A third email, also marked SBU and sent at 6:07 p.m. Washington time, carried the subject line: "Update 2: Ansar al-Sharia Claims Responsibility for Benghazi Attack."

    The message reported: "Embassy Tripoli reports the group claimed responsibility on Facebook and Twitter and has called for an attack on Embassy Tripoli."

    It was not known what other messages were received by agencies in Washington from Libya that day about who might have been behind the attacks.

    Intelligence experts caution that initial reports from the scene of any attack or disaster are often inaccurate.

    By the morning of September 12, the day after the Benghazi attack, Reuters reported that there were indications that members of both Ansar al-Sharia, a militia based in the Benghazi area, and al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb, the North African affiliate of al Qaeda's faltering central command, may have been involved in organizing the attacks.

    One U.S. intelligence official said that during the first classified briefing about Benghazi given to members of Congress, officials "carefully laid out the full range of sparsely available information, relying on the best analysis available at the time."

    The official added, however, that the initial analysis of the attack that was presented to legislators was mixed.

    "Briefers said extremists were involved in attacks that appeared spontaneous, there may have been a variety of motivating factors, and possible links to groups such as (al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb and Ansar al-Sharia) were being looked at closely," the official said.
     
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    "Briefers said extremists were involved in attacks that appeared spontaneous, there may have been a variety of motivating factors, and possible links to groups such as (al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb and Ansar al-Sharia) were being looked at closely," the official said.
     
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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...ad82ae-1a2d-11e2-bd10-5ff056538b7c_story.html

    “Talking points” prepared by the CIA on Sept. 15, the same day that Rice taped three television appearances, support her description of the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. Consulate as a reaction to Arab anger about an anti-Muslim video prepared in the United States. According to the CIA account, “The currently available information suggests that the demonstrations in Benghazi were spontaneously inspired by the protests at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo and evolved into a direct assault against the U.S. Consulate and subsequently its annex. There are indications that extremists participated in the violent demonstrations.”

    Much more at the link.
     
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    This post exposes this kind of thing for the pure political maneuvering that it is.

    Knowing that for at least five days the CIA was telling the white house that it looked like it came from spontaneous protests eliminates a lot of the cover up narrative some wish they could create.
     
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    Give it up. Romney did in the last debate. Do you think Romney didn't know that?
    Romney politicize it the first chance he got. He brought it up in the second debate. Now, he know better.

    There is nothing on that issue unless you have donkey blinders.
     
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    Yes that was a claim that needed to be investigated also and if you recall at the Rose Garden press conference the President did say that this incident needed to be investigated.
     
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    as opposed to what? not investigating? good lord.
     

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