Raptors acquire Kyle Lowry for first round pick

[tmoney1101]

Originally Posted by Dr of Dunk No need for Calderon when we have The Neck :

where's the bottom half of his face?

[dlite316]

Originally Posted by juicystream The Raptors have made the playoffs 5 times in 17 seasons. 3 in a row, and twice in a row. I'd agree it would be unlikely to make it 5 in a row.

thank you juicystream, finally someone reasonable...
ppl talking raptors making plauoffs 5 seasons in a row???!!!
i lived in toronto for almost a decade, one thing i noe raptors management does not care abt winning...

[Carl Herrera]

No want Calderon, want:

[Dreamshake1]

Your telling me with 5 years of collecting assets we trade our best player and most valuable asset for more assets? This guy Morey is delusional

[Dlawson]

Jose sucks balls screw his contract

[BimaThug]

While I'm a bit skeptical about the Raptors falling on their faces next season and getting a pick in the 4-8 range, I will say this:

--Valanciunas is young, still raw and will be an absolute FOULING MACHINE for the first half to two-thirds of his rookie year as he adjusts to the NBA game;

--No telling how quickly Ross will pick things up next season as a rookie;

--DeRozan still can't shoot the ball; and

--Calderon (if he's still on the team) and Bargnani still can't play defense.

So, there's at least some hope for another lottery season for the Raptors.

[hooroo]

Originally Posted by roflmcwaffles You ruin flexibility the second you do that. Once that trade goes down Calderon can't be traded I believe till Dec 15th. So you are out of the Dwight Howard sweepstakes.

That restriction is for new signings/free agents.

Under contract players can be traded any time on their own or in a package after 2 months.

If all they're doing is dumping salary:

for Martin, the Rockets get 2 mil more cap/salary space
for Scola, the Rockets turn a 2yr contract into 1yr

[Carl Herrera]

It seems the Rockets are also not sure whether Toronto is a playoff team or not, this is the very purpose of including the "reverse protection" on the pick. They might keep making the playoffs every year, but at least you give yourself a much better chance (injuries, etc., can always cause a team to have a bad season).

[rolyat93]

Originally Posted by Carl Herrera It seems the Rockets are also not sure whether Toronto is a playoff team or not, this is the very purpose of including the "reverse protection" on the pick. They might keep making the playoffs every year, but at least you give yourself a much better chance (injuries, etc., can always cause a team to have a bad season).

They should've given Kyle the "poison pill."

[Air Langhi]

So we plan to have 0 point guards? Morey has gone mad with his genius?

[Uprising]

wow.....at least they seem to finally be in full rebuild mode!

I'm happy to see it! So long Cranky Lowry!

Finally.....this team has a path...

[dream2franchise]

Jeez 50 pages?!

Apologies if I'm repeating something already mentioned, but is there any chance we can trade say, Terrence Jones for Kendall Marshall or another PG from this class?

[coachbadlee]

Originally Posted by dream2franchise Jeez 50 pages?! Apologies if I'm repeating something already mentioned, but is there any chance we can trade say, Terrence Jones for Kendall Marshall or another PG from this class?

There are still some pretty good PG's who went undrafted.
Jesse Sanders
Jorge Rodriguez

[W22_STREAK]

Originally Posted by dream2franchise Jeez 50 pages?! Apologies if I'm repeating something already mentioned, but is there any chance we can trade say, Terrence Jones for Kendall Marshall or another PG from this class?

TERRENCE JONES > ANY PG IN THIS YEARS DRAFT.

[W22_STREAK]

Originally Posted by coachbadlee There are still some pretty good PG's who went undrafted. Jesse Sanders Jorge Rodriguez

I say we sign Delonte West to a 1 year deal. Or Ramon Sessions. Both are my favourite players.

[W22_STREAK]

Originally Posted by Dreamshake1 Your telling me with 5 years of collecting assets we trade our best player and most valuable asset for more assets? This guy Morey is delusional

we are tanking. you know what that means??? you know what that means??!?!?!?!? NO MORE TREADMILL OF MEDIOCRITY!!!

GET OUT THE BOURBON TIME!!!!

[pbthunder]

Originally Posted by bad_jason I'll never pretend to understand this trade, but you mean to tell me they couldn't have at least gotten back Calderon along w/the draft pick? I'm not saying that even then the trade makes sense, but w/Calderon at least you know you'll have someone to dribble the ball up the court. And Macado and Forston don't count. Forston can't even dribble.

I think the point is to clear cap space. Calderon would do just the opposite.

[Road Rash]

OK choosing to try to get Lin over matching Dragic's offer made me upset, but I don't know wtf is going on with the FO's plans. There's a very good chance NY will match the Lin offer, and we just gave away a top 10 PG in the league who's under a very good contract for a single protected pick??????

I haven't missed a Rockets game in over 13 years, and I've never been this confused and pissed off about what they have done in the last few days. Kevin Martin and Luis Scola are in the red as being traded next. Both are valuable assets, but I just don't have faith anymore that Morey is making the team better for the future. We should have gotten a lot more back for Lowry, and Dragic should have been given the extra money he wanted/deserves. I understand Houston finally wants to get out of that 9th spot every year and change things up for the distant future, but THIS move is just plain retarded.

[tehG l i d e]

screwy decisions by Morey

[mike_lu]

Originally Posted by BimaThug While I'm a bit skeptical about the Raptors falling on their faces next season and getting a pick in the 4-8 range, I will say this: --Valanciunas is young, still raw and will be an absolute FOULING MACHINE for the first half to two-thirds of his rookie year as he adjusts to the NBA game; --No telling how quickly Ross will pick things up next season as a rookie; --DeRozan still can't shoot the ball; and --Calderon (if he's still on the team) and Bargnani still can't play defense. So, there's at least some hope for another lottery season for the Raptors.

Well, Lowry could get disgruntled by the losing in Toronto + the Raptors were two more losses from being tied for the 3rd worst record in the NBA last year. In fact, the difference between the 2nd worst and 8th worst record overall were a mere 3 wins.

And New Orleans, Cleveland (?), Sacramento, Brooklyn, GSW (Bogut back + Barnes), Detroit (?) and Minnesota all improved.

It may in fact be a good year to have a top 3 protected 1st from Toronto, and give us a replacement for the Knicks to cheer on (the losing).