Something I Don't Understand about The End of the Draft

[RealContender]

Scott Machado
Kevin Jones
Robert Sacre
Henry Sims

Just 4 players not drafted last night.

Kostas Papanikolau
Furkan Aldemir
Heck, a whole host of foreign guys who will never play NBA games.


I just don't understand why teams late in the Draft take chances on THESE guys instead of the proven guys from our own turf.

IMO, Machado and Jones have a MUCH better chance to make a team than one of these Euro trash guys who'll definitely play overseas for the next 3 (or more) season.

Anyone else driven mad by this?

[Yung-T]

Don't like Euros?

[C-Mo]

The Euro picks are like lotto tickets. Most of the time, you dont win anything but there's a chance you could hit big. Any US player taken at the bottom of the 2nd round probably has a really low ceiling. You can sign those guys off the street and bring them to camp if you wanna take a look. Or pick them up in 2 years out of the D-League.

[Jamers]

do you know Llull, Donats? they are foreign guys who developed their skills overseas.

It's kinda risky, but sometimes it gives high rewards. I'm sure Llull and Donats will be in the lottery next or this recent draft

[smr6]

Draft Euros so you have their rights whever they actually can possibly come over. These guys from USA that don't get drafted can be signed as free agents right away and the Euros cannot until they are out of contract. Essentially it is because you can't sign the rights to someone in free agency.

[RealContender]

I hear what you all are saying, but no thanks.

I'd rather secure the rights to a guy like Machado. Player of the Year in the Metro Atlantic.

Especially in the case of the New Jersey Nets...

They're trying to persuade Deron Williams to stay a Net, right? Now, at the 57th pick it's unlikely you're drafting an immediate impact player. However, go ahead and draft someone he's heard of. Not some Euro dude with 17 syllables in his last name that'll (99.9% of the time) never see an NBA court (as a player, anyway).

[Ricksmith]

Originally Posted by RealContender I'd rather secure the rights to a guy like Machado.

Undrafted Iona guard Scott Machado has Bobcats, Cavaliers, Hawks, Hornets, Raptors, Rockets calling for summer league, sources tell Y!

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojYahooNBA) June 29, 2012

[Kam]

Buying low, selling high.

If they work out, fantastic. You develop them with out basically paying them. You draft these American guys, you have to put them on the roster and develop them, or send them to the dl, and you have to pay them and eat cap space.

[RealContender]

Originally Posted by Ricksmith Undrafted Iona guard Scott Machado has Bobcats, Cavaliers, Hawks, Hornets, Raptors, Rockets calling for summer league, sources tell Y! — Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojYahooNBA) June 29, 2012

Great news! Thanks Rick.

I hope he chooses with us, since we still have Lowry on the roster.

[BoomTown]

Robert Sacre was drafted...

[JayZ750]

Are second round picks guaranteed anything? Money wise? I thought no.

if you're a player, and getting invited to summer league, who cares? you either have game to make it or you don't. whether you are a second round pick or undrafted pick-up for summer league, you'll have to prove it.

[sammy]

Kevin Jones is a baller from what I saw.

[Juxtaposed Jolt]

Originally Posted by C-Mo The Euro picks are like lotto tickets. Most of the time, you dont win anything but there's a chance you could hit big. Any US player taken at the bottom of the 2nd round probably has a really low ceiling. You can sign those guys off the street and bring them to camp if you wanna take a look. Or pick them up in 2 years out of the D-League.

I honestly think it is because the int'l players drafted at the bottom are starters or 6th man players in their country. They still get to run and hustle in their league; and some leagues are almost on par with the NBA. Basically, they get to be tested in the NBA, without being in the NBA. If that makes sense. The int'l guys already have spots on dedicated teams in their league.

Now, these domestic guys, while more proven / less raw than those int'l guys, won't see the light of day, even at the end of an NBA bench, when they first are drafted. And they won't be playing college ball again, so they can't play at a level mirroring the NBA like the int'l guys can.

I think that's the only reason, really. Int'l guys are put to the test when they're stashed, versus the domestic guys who only get to play in an NBA setting, really, when teams call them up for D-League or Summer League or whatever.

Being int'l usually > being domestic
because
Playing on dedicated competitive team > playing playground basketball waiting for NBA to call.

[TEXNIFICENT]

Didn't Sacre go to the Lakers?

[A_3PO]

Originally Posted by sammy Kevin Jones is a baller from what I saw.

I bet he's on somebody's opening day roster. I am shocked he wasn't drafted.

[ObamaFan]

Originally Posted by A_3PO I bet he's on somebody's opening day roster. I am shocked he wasn't drafted.

guy made a mistake and hired his older brother as his agent

[FLASH21]

Originally Posted by sammy Kevin Jones is a baller from what I saw.

Some are calling for his agents head, who told Jones there was a first round promise from some team... Dime Mag explains it here...

http://dimemag.com/2012/06/the-10-be...012-nba-draft/

[LCII]

The undrafted local guys, you can just try them out in the summer league. the euro guys are already busy playing in euro, you draft them so you have their rights in case they blow up and develop into a good NBA player.

[withmustard]

Originally Posted by Jamers do you know Llull, Donats? they are foreign guys who developed their skills overseas. It's kinda risky, but sometimes it gives high rewards. I'm sure Llull and Donats will be in the lottery next or this recent draft

Don't forget Scola, and more recently Lior Eliyahu. People forget about him.

[da_juice]

Teams like the Lakers and the Heat who can't afford to wait for guys to develop and have very big salaries to pay prefer foreigners in the 2nd round because they won't come over and take up roster spots and more importantly, do not count towards the cap until they come over.

That's why the end of the 2nd round if hilarious to watch, Adam Silver mangling congoese names that everyone knows will never come to the NBA.