Chad Ford: Rockets talking to Cavs about 4th pick

[Outlier]

Originally Posted by BigBird So does that mean we would retain the draft picks we currently have? What? How would that deal go down?

Huh? I think you're reading it wrong.

[Rudyc281]

I want MKG too chuck 4 but would he start over parsons?

[Chuck 4]

Originally Posted by Rudyc281 I want MKG too chuck 4 but would he start over parsons?

If Parsons or Morris get traded, it might be a moot point.

[BigBird]

Originally Posted by Outlier Huh? I think you're reading it wrong.

I'm just confused as to how we would walk away, as Amico suggests, with 4 first rounders if we were to consummate a deal for the Cavs pick

[HMMMHMM]

Originally Posted by jopatmc Washington wants Robinson at 3. They're dancing all around it, hoping that Charlotte or whoever picks at 2 will leave him there at 3. Charlotte is putting out that they are taking Robinson simply to try to force a trade. They're vacillating back and forth between saying they want Barnes, Robinson, and MKG trying to force trades when all the while they really want Beal and something else for #2. Big poker game.

I think you're reading the situation wrong here.

The Wizards want Beal. He compliments their roster perfectly. The Bobcats want Robinson, but would prefer to trade down and pick up additional assets on the way.
The Wizards are threatening to either take Robinson at #3 or trade the #3 to anybody who likes Robinson, if and only if the Bobcats trade down and another team (like the Cavs) selects Beal #2.

Originally Posted by Carl Herrera I am getting a feeling that the best use of Kevin Martin is as a part of a trade offer to Atlanta. His contract matches Josh Smith's and Atlanta can use a SG (the lets replace Jamal Crawford on the cheap with McGrady and Willie Green thing never worked out). Besides, one year commitment only so Danny Ferry retains flexibility going forward. Maybe something like Kevin Martin + Morris + a 1st round pick?

Thought about something similar. I like it. Martin is a good fit next to Johnson and the Hawks could use some cheap players to not constantly be near the luxury tax. Morris is cheap, as is whatever first rounder we would send them.

Originally Posted by Chuck 4 Joe Johnson plays the 2 and is paid an insane sum to do so. Seems like ATL could get a better offer?

They might be able to get a better return for Smith, but Johnson is huge for a SG and could easily play SF. In fact IIRC there seems to be some evidence that he's more effective playing SF.

[Carl Herrera]

Originally Posted by Chuck 4 Joe Johnson plays the 2 and is paid an insane sum to do so. Seems like ATL could get a better offer?

Joe Johnson split his time between the 2 and 3 pretty evenly, depending on which teammates he plays with. ATL spent a lot of time with, for example, a Teague/Hinrich backcourt. They can use KMart especially since Green, McGrady and Hinrich are all free agents.

http://www.82games.com/1112/11ATL6.HTM#bypos

As whether they'll get a better offers, maybe Martin, Morris and a pick isn't enough, but there are plenty of ways to configure this: what if the Rockets gave them a top 10 pick or add in Sergio Llull or even Motienjunas?

[Chuck 4]

Originally Posted by HMMMHMM They might be able to get a better return for Smith, but Johnson is huge for a SG and could easily play SF. In fact IIRC there seems to be some evidence that he's more effective playing SF.

True. One of my biggest gripes about them is that they have 3 guys (Joe Johnson, Josh Smith & Al Horford) all playing out of position.

[heypartner]

When teams bring in every player within a draft range for a workout, we say they are doing their research, so they know everything out there and are prepared for any draft board scenario.

When Morey talks to every GM within a draft range, he is doing the same thing (research/info gathering), wrt trade scenarios on or before Draft Day. Doesn't necessarily mean something fell through or something became more enticing than another.

Anything can happen, so prepare for it.

All that said: I think Morey leaked this to strike fear in the #5-8 spots. I don't see Cavs trading this pick at all, since their best player is a rookie. If we were Cavs fans, we would want to use that pick, right?

[Chuck 4]

Originally Posted by Carl Herrera Joe Johnson split his time between the 2 and 3 pretty evenly, depending on which teammates he plays with. ATL spent a lot of time with, for example, a Teague/Hinrich backcourt. They can use KMart especially since Green, McGrady and Hinrich are all free agents. http://www.82games.com/1112/11ATL6.HTM#bypos As whether they'll get a better offers, maybe Martin, Morris and a pick isn't enough, but there are plenty of ways to configure this: what if the Rockets gave them a top 10 pick or add in Sergio Llull or even Motienjunas?

With Danny Ferry in charge now, it won't be as easy to get over on them as it was when Sund was in charge. But everyone is available on their roster, according to rumors.

[J.R.]

Chad Ford: Rockets talking to every team in the lottery blah blah blah

[thedreamsteam]

Originally Posted by Rookie34 Wrong thread ... but hey, who gives a s**t what DH12 says. He's just a scary chicken. Doesn't want to go to Houston because of Hakeem, doesn't want to go to the Lakers because of Shaq, ... own legacy, right?

My best friends older brothers best friend who used to be a scout in the NBA said he doesn't want to go to Brooklyn because he doesn't want to live up the the legacy of the great Brook Lopez

[Baqui99]

MKG might make sense given the cryptic message from Doc Rocket...

"have faith" - kidd-gilCHRIST

[clubberclyde]

Originally Posted by Baqui99 MKG might make sense given the cryptic message from Doc Rocket... "have faith" - kidd-gilCHRIST

[Aruba77]

Originally Posted by Baqui99 MKG might make sense given the cryptic message from Doc Rocket... "have faith" - kidd-gilCHRIST

please be true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Outlier]

Originally Posted by Baqui99 MKG might make sense given the cryptic message from Doc Rocket... "have faith" - kidd-gilCHRIST

This is getting ridiculous!

... can MKG play SG? I still want Parsons to start.

[RedDynasty]

Originally Posted by Baqui99 MKG might make sense given the cryptic message from Doc Rocket... "have faith" - kidd-gilCHRIST

My god.... How did I not notice that?? I hope we get MKG. I love his playstyle. Get him, and you could trade Parsons for a lot!

[Aruba77]

Originally Posted by Outlier This is getting ridiculous! ... can MKG play SG? I still want Parsons to start.

i just don't think we are good enough to forgo drafting the most talented players because we have a solid guy on our roster at that position. After Davis and Beal, MKG is the best player in this draft. As a rebuilding team, i think we need to add talent first, and worry about positions later.

but no ...MKG cannot play shooting guard.

[Convictedstupid]

I want brad beal. More than any player we have any semi realistic shot of getting in this draft. Please Morey, Beal.

[Outlier]

Dude we become the Heat stoppers if MKG plays SG to stop Wade and Parsons is used to slow down LeBron.

Btw, those players Doc listed... Drummond, Ross, and those two others.. maybe theese guys are who the Cavs covet?

[BEAT LA]

This means 1 of 2 things to me:

1) The Rockets didn't reach an agreement with the Sacramento and possibly the Raptors.
2) The Rockets are exploring other options and have a deal on the table.