John Culberson blocking metro rail funding

[bigtexxx]

Originally Posted by da1 Freeway and road plans should be aborted as well.

well that would be fantastic for ambulances and moving goods by truck around the country. rolleyes

Seriously, I'm convinced some of you rail fanboys just want a cool-looking train in your city. Fact, reason and logic are irrelevant to you, instead you just care about boasting to others that your city has a lot of trains. Immature logic. I challenge you to think more critically than that. Incorporate fact, reason and logic into your beliefs.

[Rip Van Rocket]

Originally Posted by Summer Song Giver So, this must be what the D&D forum is like

Yes, and it goes on day after day, month after month, year after year. The same people throwing insults at each other over and over again, never accomplishing anything. I really pity those poor bastards.

[Jontro]

So this is where we go to tryout for the D&D then?

[Commodore]

Most public transportation systems operate at a loss. They can't charge prices high enough to cover costs without losing riders. As others have said, massive monuments that limit mobility to a straight line make no sense given today's technology. Bus are more flexible.

[cwebbster]

Originally Posted by da1 Corrected

Took you a few tries.....

[Sajan]

Originally Posted by Rip Van Rocket Yes, and it goes on day after day, month after month, year after year. The same people throwing insults at each other over and over again, never accomplishing anything. I really pity those poor bastards.

ya. it's not like anyone is going to change their opinion because all of a sudden they saw the light in D&D.

[Apps]

Originally Posted by Raven People who live in nice neighborhoods do not want to be within walking distance of public transportation.

Why do you say that? I ask because I live in a very nice neighborhood in Los Angeles County and my house is literally one block away from a Metro station. Do you think people would be averse to something like that because of the "riff raff" it would bring in to their town?

All I know is that it is one of the most hugely convenient amenities available to me on a daily basis, and since the line takes me to about every place I want to go, it has essentially been my exclusive means of travel. And this is in L.A., mind you.

[Blake]

Originally Posted by da1 Pot calling kettle black. Who wants to help poor people that need good transit? Not a selfish person like you. Stop trolling.

That's what buses are for

[da1]

Originally Posted by bigtexxx well that would be fantastic for ambulances and moving goods by truck around the country. rolleyes Seriously, I'm convinced some of you rail fanboys just want a cool-looking train in your city. Fact, reason and logic are irrelevant to you, instead you just care about boasting to others that your city has a lot of trains. Immature logic. I challenge you to think more critically than that. Incorporate fact, reason and logic into your beliefs.

Do you know how much it costs to build a freeway?

[Kam]

How are trains powered? Does one take it to Exxon or something and pump it gas? Get their windshield cleaned up?

[bigtexxx]

Originally Posted by Kam How are trains powered? Does one take it to Exxon or something and pump it gas? Get their windshield cleaned up?

Primarily fossil fuel fired electricity.

[krosfyah]

Originally Posted by Dubious The town was built in response to the market place. People love convenience, everything they need, close by.

If you have to drive to get there, then it isn't close by.

[mfastx]

Originally Posted by bigtexxx Seriously, I'm convinced some of you rail fanboys just want a cool-looking train in your city. Fact, reason and logic are irrelevant to you, instead you just care about boasting to others that your city has a lot of trains. Immature logic. I challenge you to think more critically than that. Incorporate fact, reason and logic into your beliefs.

Well I can't speak for others, but all I want is a better public transportation system. In fact, I don't think our light rail looks 'cool' at all, it look sterile and boring actually. But I have seen the numbers and rail carries more people, is more reliable, and is more efficient than buses. I think it's well worth the one-time moderate capital cost to improve our city, transportation system, and the quality of life of those who ride METRO.

Sue me.

How can you say it's 'immature logic' when many people who are experienced and educated on public transportation are in favor of building rail? What you are saying makes no sense man.

[mfastx]

Originally Posted by Blake That's what buses are for

We already have a predomantly bus transit system. They aren't doing a very good job and are inefficient.

[HombreDeHierro]

how could a speedy train HURT the city of houston?


im not talking in strictly dollars and cents... but that is what texxx understands solely

[HombreDeHierro]

where are sociocultural variables in this discussion?

[brantonli24]

Don't you guys have an underground system? sorry I haven't got a clue how Houston traffic works.

[bigtexxx]

Originally Posted by HombreDeHierro how could a speedy train HURT the city of houston? im not talking in strictly dollars and cents... but that is what texxx understands solely

lol what a gem of a post

yeah, nobody needs to worry about trivial things such as "dollars and cents"

Signed,
Greece

[da1]

Originally Posted by bigtexxx lol what a gem of a post yeah, nobody needs to worry about trivial things such as "dollars and cents" Signed, Greece

Do you know how expensive and inefficient highways are?

[Cohete Rojo]

By area, Houston is a very large city for its size. Including the Metro area it has something like a 25 mile radius (50 miles across).

First thing to do is further attract the suburban money to use mass transit. There is a dedicated Park&Ride system, but marketing a rail line that will get people downtown faster than driving or riding P&R is a must.

This would be a massive undertaking as it would require a dedicated track and a dedicated downtown hub. I don't think Houston has the real-estate for that effort or would want to build the parking lots/garages downtown and in the suburbs.

As far as building an extension of the rail line they have now (which so many here seem to like), it makes sense to do something so more simple compared to something as ambitious as mentioned above.